From: mattic on

"Mike" <not(a)here.thanks> wrote in message
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>
> I am English first and foremost
>
> British next
> .
> .
> .
>
> then somewhere down the line
>
> european

Yes, this is what everyone has been saying, Mike. If you're going to
participate ina thread that you have previously declared an aversion to, you
should at least offer some new information.

>
> I served Her Majesty under the White Ensign
>
> If you have problems with that

What on earth makes you think that he had any problems with it? You have
only just introduced it! He was not even talking to you!

> what is your country of birth?

I'll be very interested to see where you're going with this one. How about I
name some countries, and you give your response:

England
Scotland
Germany
Argentina
Australia
Switzerland
USA

'Way ya go....


From: mattic on

"Mike" <not(a)here.thanks> wrote in message
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> "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >
>
>
>> Y'see, England IS Europe...
>
> NO SIR, or MADAM
>
> England is part of Great Britain which is part of the United Kingdom which
> is, by default, part of europe (note lack of capital 'e' because it is so
> far down the line of importance, that it might just as well be in the
> dustbin)
>
> If you are unable to understand that, then a couple of questions.......
>
> Where were you between 1939 and 1945?
>
> and what Country were you born in?

I'd better alert the Bobbies, there's some bad gear going around the South.


From: JNugent on
Richard Brookman wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>
> |||| Do you still not get it..? As soon as you start
> |||| swearing to make your point, you immediately become
> |||| completely and totally wrong, even if you weren't to
> |||| start with.
> ||||
> |||
> ||| That statement is totally, utterly wrong.
> |||
> ||| The language used does not alter the validity of the
> ||| point AT ALL.
> ||
> || It does, purely and simply because it shows the user of the swear
> || word to be intellectually incapable of making a point without such
> || usage. That in itself is enough to convince me that they are wrong.
> || If they were right, they would be able to argue their point without
> || swearing.
>
> So if someone said "two plus two equals four, you fuckwit", they'd be wrong
> by your logic?

To say that two and two equals four is not to "make a point".

Or at least, not unless the context is vanishingly esoteric.
From: David Taylor on
On 2006-08-20, Mark Foster <m.e.fosterREMOVEMEFIRST(a)sussex.ac.uk> wrote:
> In article <YW5Gg.15202$rP1.5353(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> "mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote:
>
>> "Mark Foster" <m.e.fosterREMOVEMEFIRST(a)sussex.ac.uk> wrote in message
>> news:m.e.fosterREMOVEMEFIRST-A04131.20295220082006(a)no-dns-yet-212-23-3-119.zen
>> .co.uk...
>> >
>> > Just for the record, like Ivor, I am not European either. Personally, I
>> > consider myself to be English.
>>
>> Then you are also European.
>
> No, I'm English.
>
>> Tell me, will you take the discount for European customers? Or will you pay
>> full price?
>
> I'll take the European discount because being English, I'm not stupid.
>:-)

Ah. A self-confused liar.

--
David Taylor
From: David Taylor on
On 2006-08-20, Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote:
> "David Taylor" <davidt-news(a)yadt.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:slrneegh93.1l0t.davidt-news(a)outcold.yadt.co.uk
>> On 2006-08-20, Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote:
>> > "Ian Dalziel" <iandalziel(a)lineone.net> wrote in message
>> > news:ro9fe2lft5h14ol1jqc4ddhf06c1o5ie4r(a)4ax.com
>> >
>> > > Could it be that you are "defined" even better by the
>> > > phrase "illiterate fuckwit"?
>> >
>> > Ah, the foul language argument again.
>> >
>> > Do you still not get it..? As soon as you start
>> > swearing to make your point, you immediately become
>> > completely and totally wrong, even if you weren't to
>> > start with.
>> >
>> > You were, but it's irrelevant now, you have just made
>> > me right.
>>
>> You are not a European, you illiterate fuckwit.
>
> First part correct, second part not so.
>
>> Damn, now I've "immediately become completely and totally
>> wrong". So what does that leave you as?
>
> That argument doesn't work. Even a liar can tell the truth sometimes.

And? You didn't say I would be liar, you just said I "immediately
become totally wrong". Not just "occasionally wrong", but
"totally wrong".

Perhaps swearing is irrelevant to the quality of your argument?

--
David Taylor