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From: David Taylor on 21 Aug 2006 07:58 On 2006-08-20, Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > "mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message > news:ZW5Gg.15210$rP1.10831(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au >> Why are you trying to impose your views on others. Why >> are you dictating that they should bottom post? That is >> grossly insulting to me. > > I'm not dictating it at all. It is simply convention in the majority of > groups, including this one. People can top post all they like, it just > means I won't give their posts the same consideration. It is also conventional for people born in England to accept being called European, and look where that got us. -- David Taylor
From: David Taylor on 21 Aug 2006 08:01 On 2006-08-21, Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > "Rob Morley" <nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.1f53119ca1d338a198a5ac(a)news.individual.net > > [snip] > >> I find it insulting that you find it insulting to be told >> that you're a European. > > That doesn't make any sense. Neither does your objection to be calling European. Mainly because you haven't actually explained your objection -- merely said you find it insulting. -- David Taylor
From: David Taylor on 21 Aug 2006 08:07 On 2006-08-20, Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > "mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message > news:TQ0Gg.15126$rP1.6205(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au > > [snip] > >> So, you're a Paki? > > Did I say that..? Something else you're wrong about then..! > > It's an analogy, you seem to be fond of those. Work it out. Some Pakistanis dislike being called Pakis. So some natives of Europe dislike being called European? Except that you also dislike anyone describing you in any way as being born where you were born, other than calling it "England". Even Pakistanis accept there needs to be a PC way to describe their Ethnicity. How can I politically correctly describe you as being from Europe, then? Assuming I get your "analogy", it isn't a very good one. You are denying the truth, they dislike a particular term. -- David Taylor
From: David Taylor on 21 Aug 2006 08:13 On 2006-08-20, Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > "David Taylor" <davidt-news(a)yadt.co.uk> wrote in message > news:slrneeghl9.1l0t.davidt-news(a)outcold.yadt.co.uk >> >> The meaning of the word "European" in the English >> language includes >> the meaning "Born in Europe". > > To you maybe, not to me and it is *my* definition that applies to me, not > yours. Sorry, when I speak (or write), your definitions are irrelevant to me. >> Thus, anyone who describes you as "European" is correct. >> You may dislike them for describing you like that, but >> you can't say they're wrong. > > Yes I can, because they are. I have given a logical explanation for my statement. You have not. Please do so, or shut up. >> If you wish, sue me for libel and you can see if a court >> thinks you can be accurately described as European. > > I don't care what you or any court may think, I am not a European and > that's an end of it. > > If you don't like it, stop calling me it and I will stop complaining. If you don't like me calling you it, then tough. I will probably eventually get bored of this thread, but I will still believe you to be European. It's my head, my thoughts, my (non-libelous) speech... >> Note also that I'm not trying to "define" you, merely >> describe you. > > I have not asked for your description. And? I don't always wait for people to request I say something before I do so. > I know perfectly well who and what I am, and European isn't it. I really, would like to understand why. If I could actually comprehend what you are thinking, I would even accept your request far enough never to call you a European again. But given your reluctance to explain, I'll continue telling the truth... -- David Taylor
From: David Taylor on 21 Aug 2006 08:15
On 2006-08-20, Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:CsKdnd4-xomIFnXZnZ2dnUVZ8tydnZ2d(a)bt.com >> >> Then what is your ethnic origin? > > Irrelevant and none of your business. It may not be any of his business, but I don't think it's irrelevant. -- David Taylor |