From: Adrian on
Ivor Jones (ivor(a)despammed.invalid) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

>> Which is wrong?
>>
>> That there isn't a continent called "Europe"?
>> That you don't reside in a country that's part of Europe?
>> That Ethiopians aren't Africans?

> That I'm a European. I'm not.

So which one of the three statements is inaccurate?

Because if they're all accurate, then you're a European.
From: Adrian on
Ivor Jones (ivor(a)despammed.invalid) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

>> > > > Gosh. I'm suitably awed. Doesn't stop me disliking
>> > > > your unnecesary use of *foul* language.

>> > > So protect your sensibilities, by filtering it out.

>> > I shouldn't have to.

>> You shouldn't have to filter out spam.

> I agree. People shouldn't send it either.

But they do.

So you have to live with it.

Do you just filter it out and bin it, or do you have a stroppy about the
fact that it exists and demand the nasty men stop it?
From: Tony Raven on
Ivor Jones wrote on 19/08/2006 16:17 +0100:
>
> Did I say that..? All I said was I am not a European. You can be one if
> you like, but don't include me in your decision.
>

It's not a matter of choice - you are whether you like it or not just
the same as you are a man and Welsh. Wishing any of those not to be
true doesn't make it so.

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci
From: Chris Malcolm on
In uk.rec.cycling Paul {Hamilton Rooney} <craig(a)oil.com> wrote:

>>>It has become accepted usage. That is how languages evolve.
>>
>>So?

> Usage is king. There's no other criterion of right and wrong where language
> is concerned. How could there be?

It couldn't be. Were usage the only criterion, there would be no
change.

--
Chris Malcolm cam(a)infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

From: Richard Brookman on
Chris Malcolm wrote:

|| In uk.rec.cycling Paul {Hamilton Rooney} <craig(a)oil.com> wrote:
||
||||| It has become accepted usage. That is how languages evolve.
||||
|||| So?
||
||| Usage is king. There's no other criterion of right and wrong where
||| language is concerned. How could there be?
||
|| It couldn't be. Were usage the only criterion, there would be no
|| change.

You're wrong, Paul's right. All languages (except dead ones like Latin and
Ancient Greek) change all the time, and it's the usage that's changing. How
could it be any other way? We don't wait for the OED to "officially" change
the meaning of a word and then all fall into line and start using it. It's
the other way round.

--
Rich
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