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From: Brimstone on 19 Aug 2006 13:54 "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message news:4kp1a5Fd2udaU1(a)individual.net... > > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:g7ednQ5Cbc3E03rZRVny2Q(a)bt.com >> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message >> news:4kp0udFd3n8lU1(a)individual.net... >> > "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> > news:Xns9824A9C857692adrianachapmanfreeis(a)204.153.244.170 >> > > Ivor Jones (ivor(a)despammed.invalid) gurgled happily, >> > > sounding much like they were saying : >> > > >> > > > > Which is wrong? >> > > > > >> > > > > That there isn't a continent called "Europe"? >> > > > > That you don't reside in a country that's part of >> > > > > Europe? That Ethiopians aren't Africans? >> > > >> > > > That I'm a European. I'm not. >> > > >> > > So which one of the three statements is inaccurate? >> > > >> > > Because if they're all accurate, then you're a >> > > European. >> > >> > Wrong. >> >> What's wrong? > > The claim by some people here that I'm a European. It's a simple fact of life, like the colour of your hair or eyes. You're a European, unless your parents are of a different ethnic origin to the natives.
From: Brimstone on 19 Aug 2006 13:57 "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message news:4kp1imFd46ccU1(a)individual.net... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:tZmdnRlLEvSf0nrZRVnyrw(a)bt.com >> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message >> news:4kp105Fda3o1U1(a)individual.net... > > [snip] > >> > How am I Welsh, when I was born in Essex..? >> >> Because of your parents. > > How do you work that one out..?! > >> > I'm still not a European either. >> >> So what are you African, American (North or South), Asian >> or Australian? > > None of the above. I am English, I take my definition from my *country* > not continent. Hard luck, you don't get a choice. It's a basic fact of life that you can't alter. If your were born of Welsh born parents then you're Welsh, not English.
From: Ivor Jones on 19 Aug 2006 13:58 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:xYWdnW_uQ-ZS0nrZnZ2dnUVZ8s-dnZ2d(a)bt.com > "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message > news:4kp14fFd9k96U1(a)individual.net... [snip] > > Now you're really talking cobblers. How can I not be > > English if I was born in England..? > > Because of your parentage. My parentage has nothing to do with it. *I* am defined by where *I* was born, not by where someone else was. If my mother was born in Japan (she wasn't, by the way, neither was she born in Wales) would that make me Japanese..? > > I said I wasn't a European, which I'm not, and nothing > > you say will make it otherwise, so give up now, I never > > will. > > On the contrary, you are European whether you like it or > not, and nothing you say will make it otherwise. Wrong. Give up now, I will take this on forever, you will *never* make me say I am what I am not. Ever. Get used to it. > If you > were born of parents whose ethnic origins are European > then you are European. It's like being a human male, you > don't get any say in the matter. I am defined by my country not continent, and by where *I* was born not someone else. Ivor
From: Ivor Jones on 19 Aug 2006 14:00 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:gKKdnSyNBsv6zXrZnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d(a)bt.com [snip] > It's a simple fact of life, like the colour of your hair > or eyes. You're a European, unless your parents are of a > different ethnic origin to the natives. Wrong. My parents have nothing to do with it, neither does a continent. I am defined by my country of birth, and nothing, repeat *NOTHING* else. Ivor
From: Brimstone on 19 Aug 2006 14:07
"Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message news:4kp1qaFcsuhsU1(a)individual.net... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:xYWdnW_uQ-ZS0nrZnZ2dnUVZ8s-dnZ2d(a)bt.com >> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message >> news:4kp14fFd9k96U1(a)individual.net... > > [snip] > >> > Now you're really talking cobblers. How can I not be >> > English if I was born in England..? >> >> Because of your parentage. > > My parentage has nothing to do with it. *I* am defined by where *I* was > born, not by where someone else was. If my mother was born in Japan (she > wasn't, by the way, neither was she born in Wales) would that make me > Japanese..? It would make you part Japanese. > >> > I said I wasn't a European, which I'm not, and nothing >> > you say will make it otherwise, so give up now, I never >> > will. >> >> On the contrary, you are European whether you like it or >> not, and nothing you say will make it otherwise. > > Wrong. Give up now, I will take this on forever, you will *never* make me > say I am what I am not. Ever. Get used to it. What you say is irrelevant, you are European. >> If you >> were born of parents whose ethnic origins are European >> then you are European. It's like being a human male, you >> don't get any say in the matter. > > I am defined by my country not continent, and by where *I* was born not > someone else. As are the Germans, the French, the Irish, the Dutch et al. They will all (with the exception of the usual weirdos) say they are nationals of their country, but they're still European. What makes you think you're different to the other 400,000,000 or so people who live on this continent? |