From: Brimstone on

"Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:4kp4bqFcu4bmU1(a)individual.net...
> "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9824C7CB0170adrianachapmanfreeis(a)204.153.244.170
>> Ivor Jones (ivor(a)despammed.invalid) gurgled happily,
>> sounding much like they were saying :
>>
>> > My parentage has nothing to do with it. *I* am defined
>> > by where *I* was born, not by where someone else was.
>> > If my mother was born in Japan (she wasn't, by the way,
>> > neither was she born in Wales) would that make me
>> > Japanese..?
>>
>> So all those kids born to BFPO in Germany in the
>> 60s-70s-80s are German? Even if they moved back to the UK
>> in their infancy?
>
> If that's where they were born, yes. They could take UK citizenship,
> certainly, but by birth they would still be German.

Since the vast majority never had anything to do with Germans or Germany how
do you work that out? How would they go about getting German citizenship
given that their parents are there as members of the British armed forces?


From: Brimstone on

"Tony Raven" <junk(a)raven-family.com> wrote in message
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> Paul {Hamilton Rooney} wrote on 19/08/2006 09:58 +0100:
>>
>> You hear it on the BBC now. There was a time when those anals wouldn't
>> even
>> split an infinitive.
>
> Although it's grammatically perfectly OK to split an infinitive (Cambridge
> Grammar of the English Language Chapter 4)
>
>>
>> Usage is usage. Neither accurate nor inaccurate. That's how language
>> works.
>>
>
> It has to be more than just usage otherwise writing "guvf vf n ybnq bs
> yvathvfgvp gbfu" would be considered perfectly acceptable English.

For which I, and others I expect, would need a translation.


From: Adrian on
Brimstone (brimstone(a)hotmail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

>> It has to be more than just usage otherwise writing "guvf vf n ybnq
>> bs yvathvfgvp gbfu" would be considered perfectly acceptable
>> English.

> For which I, and others I expect, would need a translation.

(I was half expecting it to be ROT13)
From: Paul {Hamilton Rooney} on
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:18:43 +0100, "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
>news:4kp2o1Fd91ooU1(a)individual.net...
>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O8mdnXqSgtm4yXrZRVnyqA(a)bt.com
>>> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:4kp1t9Fd9flvU1(a)individual.net...
>>> > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:gKKdnSyNBsv6zXrZnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d(a)bt.com
>>> >
>>> > [snip]
>>> >
>>> > > It's a simple fact of life, like the colour of your
>>> > > hair or eyes. You're a European, unless your parents
>>> > > are of a different ethnic origin to the natives.
>>> >
>>> > Wrong. My parents have nothing to do with it, neither
>>> > does a continent. I am defined by my country of birth,
>>> > and nothing, repeat *NOTHING* else.
>>>
>>> Are you serious? Are you really saying that you parents
>>> had nothing to do with your birth?
>>
>> No, I'm saying that their nationality has nothing to do with mine, apart
>> from the fact that my mother was (obviously) in the country I was born in
>> at the time.
>
>That's a relief, I was getting a bit concerned. :-)
>
>>> There's no point in you putting your fingers in your ears
>>> and shouting to keep out the noise. Your country of birth
>>> is in Europe, therefore, even by your own definition, you
>>> are European.
>>
>> There's no point in you putting your fingers in your ears and shouting
>> "you're a European" because that still won't make me one. I am defined by
>> my *country* not a continent. End of story.
>
>I don't have to shout anything to make you what you already are. You are
>defined by country, state, continent and (if ever the time comes) planet.
>

Ivor is not an Earthling, clearly.

--

Paul Rooney

"Rooney is one of these vandals and has done his utmost to help trash dl and the
other groups which he regularly crossposts to. He's created a false FAQ
and charter" (Chris Lawrence in uk.rec.walking)

"Also long time d.l. reader but never feel robust enough to post much,
especially since Rooney wrecked the group." (Rachel Sullivan in uk.rec.walking)

"Low life scum doesn't even begin to describe you. You are the most loathsome
individual ever to cross the threshold of d.l." (JK in demon.local)
From: Tony Raven on
Ivor Jones wrote on 19/08/2006 18:44 +0100:
>
> I'm still not a European either.
>

OED: European n.

B. 1. A native of Europe.

Ergo you are a European and saying otherwise will not change the fact.

You still haven't said whether you recognise the terms American, Asian,
African or Australian.

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci