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From: Ian Dalziel on 19 Aug 2006 17:55 On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:00:07 +0100, "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: >"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:gKKdnSyNBsv6zXrZnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d(a)bt.com > >[snip] > >> It's a simple fact of life, like the colour of your hair >> or eyes. You're a European, unless your parents are of a >> different ethnic origin to the natives. > >Wrong. My parents have nothing to do with it, neither does a continent. I >am defined by my country of birth, and nothing, repeat *NOTHING* else. > So even the "Ivor Jones" bit is redundant? -- Ian D
From: Ian Dalziel on 19 Aug 2006 17:58 On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:44:35 +0100, "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: >How am I Welsh, when I was born in Essex..? You're surely East Saxon rather than English, then? -- Ian D
From: Ivor Jones on 19 Aug 2006 18:24 "Ian Dalziel" <iandalziel(a)lineone.net> wrote in message news:i52fe2t9plfp42522stpqjlaideamn0325(a)4ax.com > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:00:07 +0100, "Ivor Jones" > <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:gKKdnSyNBsv6zXrZnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d(a)bt.com > > > > [snip] > > > > > It's a simple fact of life, like the colour of your > > > hair or eyes. You're a European, unless your parents > > > are of a different ethnic origin to the natives. > > > > Wrong. My parents have nothing to do with it, neither > > does a continent. I am defined by my country of birth, > > and nothing, repeat *NOTHING* else. > > > > So even the "Ivor Jones" bit is redundant? How is my name relevant to my nationality..? Ivor
From: Ivor Jones on 19 Aug 2006 18:28 "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9824E432BD7CAadrianachapmanfreeis(a)204.153.244.170 > Ivor Jones (ivor(a)despammed.invalid) gurgled happily, > sounding much like they were saying : > > > > So an Ethiopean or a Nigerian isn't an African? > > > A Brazilian or an Argentinian isn't a South American? > > > A German or an Italian isn't a European? > > > None of this is relevant. > > Of course it is. It's an absolutely analogous situation. > How do YOU think it differs? I don't care about analogies. I am not a European. > > > Or is this just a personal thing, and you somehow > > > opted out? > > > I was never asked to opt in. > > Hadn't you had your 18th birthday by 5th June 1975? Irrelevant. Ivor
From: Ivor Jones on 19 Aug 2006 18:30
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GaWdnRiFM52yGHrZRVny2g(a)bt.com > Ivor Jones wrote: > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:J_CdnS2fedU943rZnZ2dnUVZ8tKdnZ2d(a)bt.com > > > > [snip] > > > > > So you object to being defined as a human male? > > > > I object to others deciding what I am. > > Others decided you are a human male. Oh yes, who..? I was unaware it was possible to choose the gender of a child in the 50's. Ivor |