From: Ivor Jones on


"SteveH" <steve(a)italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > > There is only one fact that matters. I am not a
> > > > European. That will remain a fact long after you get
> > > > fed up with trying to tell me I am one.
> > >
> > > OK, how about an explanation, then?
> >
> > I've explained in several posts.
>
> No you haven't.

I have stated I am not European, and also why.

If you can't or won't accept that it's your problem, not mine.

I'm still not a European.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on


"Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:15:15 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
> <THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > SteveH wrote:
> >
> > > > Unless you have some strange passport from the
> > > > Falklands or something. --
> >
> > I can see this ending in a revelation that no-one has
> > thought of, like he was born on the polar ice-cap or
> > something. I wondered if your guess on the Falklands
> > might have been it. But no - the game of 20 questions
> > continues.
> >
> > You're Adolf Hitler? - Wrong.
> > OK, you're Superman? - Wrong.
> >
> > And so on ...
>
> No, he is English.
>
> He just wrongly believes that somebody who is English is
> not also European.

Not wrongly.

> And if everybody else in the entire world were to tell
> him, he would *still* insist that it was everybody else
> who was wrong.

Correct.

> It is odd, because if you get him away from issues
> surrounding nationality, statehood, Europe, etc. he
> appears to be intelligent, and can have a reasonable
> conversation.

Thankyou.

> But in those areas, he comes across as a gibbering idiot
> :-(

Not at all. It's not my fault if I'm not what you say I am.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on


"Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:23:51 +0100, "Brimstone"
> <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:4kp32tFdaq2oU1(a)individual.net...
> > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:sNednS1y7K-fy3rZnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d(a)bt.com
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > I don't have to shout anything to make you what you
> > > > already are. You are defined by country, state,
> > > > continent and (if ever the time comes) planet.
> > >
> > > Country. Nothing else. Give up.
> >
> > Country, plus continent plus planet.
> >
>
> You might as well give up.
>
> Ivor will never accept that what everybody else on the
> planet who speaks English believes is true, could
> possibly be correct, because he doesn't want it to be
> valid.

Because it isn't true.

> He is a *lot* more stubborn (and shows rather less
> intelligence) on this matter than Ben Nevis.

Stubborness doesn't even begin to come into it.

Ivor


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"Ian Dalziel" <iandalziel(a)lineone.net> wrote in message
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[snip]

> Could it be that you are "defined" even better by the
> phrase "illiterate fuckwit"?

Ah, the foul language argument again.

Do you still not get it..? As soon as you start swearing to make your
point, you immediately become completely and totally wrong, even if you
weren't to start with.

You were, but it's irrelevant now, you have just made me right.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on


"Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:05:22 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
> > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:He6dnWUtrqQf-3rZRVnyig(a)bt.com
> > > "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> > > news:4kp6lrFda5s5U1(a)individual.net...
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > So you know better than the Oxford English Dictionary?
> >
> > I don't live my life defined by a dictionary.
>
> No, but the words you use are defined either by a
> dictionary, or by common usage where that has not yet
> been incorporated.
>
> On either count, you are using the word incorrectly.

Which particular word..? I don't care except for one specific word,
European. That word does not and never will apply to me.

Ivor