From: moray on 22 Jun 2007 14:25 "Chris Whelan" <cawhelan(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:b3Uei.2168$H61.1489(a)newsfe4-win.ntli.net... > moray wrote: > > [...] >> >> Copperslip can be used on pad retaining pins, but should not be used on >> caliper slides. > > Any reason for that, moray? Retaining pins are normally steel, and are a pretty loose fit on the pads, and biggest issue is them rusting so they don't come out easy. If they rust where they pass through the pad, it's not a big deal, as for the rust to get thick enough for the pads to seize onto them, chances are the pads themselves have badly rusted and the linings most likely about to fall off. Only thing the copper grease does, is (hopefully) make them come out a bit easier next time you want to take the pads out. Caliper slides on the other hand, are highly polished items, and can be made from chromed steel, stainless steel, or just blackened steel, and have relatively tight tolerances (compared with retaining pins) on the bore they pass through. A seized or sticky caliper slide can cause a whole host of problems (binding brakes, excess pedal travel, uneven pad wear), which is why using the right grease (or no grease as the case may be), is more critical.
From: Guy King on 22 Jun 2007 14:47 The message <f5h46c$j0q$1$8300dec7(a)news.demon.co.uk> from "moray" <mtb_hyphen_rules(a)hotmail.co.uk> contains these words: > Caliper slides on the other hand, are highly polished items, and can > be made > from chromed steel, stainless steel, or just blackened steel, and have > relatively tight tolerances (compared with retaining pins) on the bore they > pass through. That's the pin sort. For them I'd stick with the proper grease, which all the instructions I've seem specify silicone grease. The cruder sort where the pad grinds along a barely machined ledge on the caliper seem to work better for longer with copper grease, in my experience. -- Skipweasel We have always been at war with Iran. [George Orwell - almost]
From: moray on 22 Jun 2007 15:01 "Guy King" <guy.king(a)zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:3130303034323739467C276677(a)zetnet.co.uk... > The message <f5h46c$j0q$1$8300dec7(a)news.demon.co.uk> > from "moray" <mtb_hyphen_rules(a)hotmail.co.uk> contains these words: > >> Caliper slides on the other hand, are highly polished items, and can >> be made >> from chromed steel, stainless steel, or just blackened steel, and have >> relatively tight tolerances (compared with retaining pins) on the bore >> they >> pass through. > > That's the pin sort. For them I'd stick with the proper grease, which > all the instructions I've seem specify silicone grease. It depends on if they're sealed or not. Sealed ones, are generally not as corrosion resistant as the unsealed ones, so silcon grease is a must to help ward of corrosion. Unsealed ones, are normally chromed or stainless, and grease doesn't make much difference to them. Giving them a good clean when you've got them stripped is the best bet, although a smear of grease in the caliper housing does help. > The cruder sort where the pad grinds along a barely machined ledge on > the caliper seem to work better for longer with copper grease, in my > experience. They're not what get's classed as caliper slides. That's just where the brake pads sit on/in the caliper. Best option is to strip and clean the brakes periodically. A coating of grease on the contact points will help prevent the rust from swelling for a short period, but given the exposed nature of most calipers, any grease will get washed of pretty quickly in the wet.
From: Redwood on 26 Jun 2007 13:27
"Guy King" <guy.king(a)zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:3130303034323739467C276677(a)zetnet.co.uk... > The message <f5h46c$j0q$1$8300dec7(a)news.demon.co.uk> > from "moray" <mtb_hyphen_rules(a)hotmail.co.uk> contains these words: > >> Caliper slides on the other hand, are highly polished items, and can >> be made >> from chromed steel, stainless steel, or just blackened steel, and have >> relatively tight tolerances (compared with retaining pins) on the bore >> they >> pass through. > > That's the pin sort. For them I'd stick with the proper grease, which > all the instructions I've seem specify silicone grease. > The cruder sort where the pad grinds along a barely machined ledge on > the caliper seem to work better for longer with copper grease, in my > experience. Thanks for the replies. Finally had a dry day to fit new pads & rotors and jobs a good 'un. Yes it was the shiny chrome steel calliper slides that I wasn't sure which grease to use. I used a smear of silicone grease on them and copper slip on the back of the pads and where they slide on the calliper bracket. When pushing the piston back in I found it much easier to crack open the bleed nip and it goes back very easy with thumb pressure. |