From: ChelseaTractorMan on 7 May 2010 06:34 On 7 May 2010 10:19:20 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >OK, but let's not forget that a straight %age vote/seat allocation would >have seen the BNP get about half a dozen seats last time. True, but I doubt anybody would suggest "pure" PR, its a disaster in Israel I read the other day. (brings in the nutters and makes peace impossible - so they said) -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 7 May 2010 06:35 On 7 May 2010 10:33:40 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >"Compensate" or "massage until you get the result you want"? I don't see how having the number of seats of a party equal to its votes is massaging anything. -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 7 May 2010 06:36 On 7 May 2010 10:32:32 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> But in any case theres no reason you have to transfer votes to a party >> that didn't win any seats outright. > >Surely that completely negates the point of PR? not at all. -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: Adrian on 7 May 2010 06:36 ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>OK, but let's not forget that a straight %age vote/seat allocation would >>have seen the BNP get about half a dozen seats last time. > True, but I doubt anybody would suggest "pure" PR, its a disaster in > Israel I read the other day. (brings in the nutters and makes peace > impossible - so they said) So now you're on some bodged half-and-half. Do they _ever_ work? EVERY system has advantages and disadvantages. It's just a matter of which set you prefer. For me, the direct 1:1 constituency:mp link is a very good thing and pretty bloody hard to ignore.
From: Adrian on 7 May 2010 06:40
ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>"Compensate" or "massage until you get the result you want"? > I don't see how having the number of seats of a party equal to its votes > is massaging anything. But you just said that nobody was suggesting that, since it was a real PITA in Israel. |