From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On 7 May 2010 10:40:09 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>>>"Compensate" or "massage until you get the result you want"?
>
>> I don't see how having the number of seats of a party equal to its votes
>> is massaging anything.
>
>But you just said that nobody was suggesting that, since it was a real
>PITA in Israel.

read for sense please.
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From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On 7 May 2010 10:36:51 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>So now you're on some bodged half-and-half. Do they _ever_ work?

yes, all over Europe.
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Mike. .. .
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From: Adrian on
ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

>>So now you're on some bodged half-and-half. Do they _ever_ work?

> yes, all over Europe.

Mmm. It's worked so well in Belgium, Italy, Germany lately...
From: boltar2003 on
On 7 May 2010 10:32:32 GMT
Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> It would also force the major parties to stop ignoring the perfectly
>> valid view of poor british born people that they are disadvantaged in
>> access to services by large influxes of immigration instead of labelling
>> them rascists.
>
>This isn't the thread, but that's complete and utter bollocks.

Its not bollocks. As Brown proved with his petulant little "bigot" rant
against that woman who asked a perfectly reasonable question , the labour
party simply arn't prepared to have their multi-culti beliefs and stance on
immigration questioned. And when they are they resort to playground insults
in an attempt to close down debate. As those on the left have always done.

B2003

From: Adrian on
boltar2003(a)boltar.world gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>>> It would also force the major parties to stop ignoring the perfectly
>>> valid view of poor british born people that they are disadvantaged in
>>> access to services by large influxes of immigration instead of
>>> labelling them rascists.

>>This isn't the thread, but that's complete and utter bollocks.

> Its not bollocks. As Brown proved with his petulant little "bigot" rant
> against that woman who asked a perfectly reasonable question , the
> labour party simply arn't prepared to have their multi-culti beliefs and
> stance on immigration questioned. And when they are they resort to
> playground insults in an attempt to close down debate. As those on the
> left have always done.

Lovely, an' all. But that's not what CTM said, and isn't what I called
bollocks.

I don't think there is any way in which "poor british born people" are
"disadvantaged" by "large influxes of immigration". I'm happy for you to
show me one, though...?