From: jim on


Bob Cooper wrote:
>
> In article <LuqdncFZUe0Gz5jRnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d(a)bright.net>,
> "sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net says...
> >
> >
> > Watch the live video and see if any of those wild guesses are valid. The
> > top kill operation was performed with the end of the riser pipe wide
> > open. The amount they have already crushed the pipe so far would have
> > been an improvement over a wide open end. If the pipe had been squished
> > in numerous places (including the wide open end) the junk-shot that was
> > supposed to plug up the pipe would probably have had a chance to work
> > instead of just flowing out the wide open end of the pipe.
> >
> What I saw so far is a circular saw making the cut and the jaws
> appearing to carry away and drop the riser.
> Didn't see it all. Like watching paint dry.
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > They're using a saw.
> > > >
> > > > They're using saws for some operations but the published plan is to
> > > > shear the main pipe through which the oil is leaking into the gulf using
> > > > the jaws. If you watched the live stream you would have observed the
> > > > jaws that are going to shear the pipe are already in place.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think the jaws are just to move the mess out of the way. The riser
> > > system is more than one pipe, and maybe not even suitable for crimping,
> > > as the BOP was supoosed to do to the stack.
> > > I haven't seen a published plan, just heard and seen dipicted on TV
> > > what's happening.
> > > Cut most the riser away with a saw, move it out of the way, then saw the
> > > remainder off right above the BOP, getting a clean even cut there, maybe
> > > with a different type saw.
> > > I've heard nothing about shearing.
> >
> > That makes you poorly informed.
> >
>
> Maybe. I can live with that.
>
> >
> > >
> > > > BP is required by federal law to have a plan in place and to make that
> > > > plan available to the public. Perhaps if you read BP's plan you might
> > > > stop guessing and you would know what BP says they can do.
> > > >
> > > Sure. Post the plan here. I'll read it.
> >
> > I already posted the specific part of the plan involving the shears two
> > posts before you started making your wild guesses.
> >
> > http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9033657&contentId=7062491
> >
> Thanks. Looks like what I saw depicted on TV, but couldn't read the
> text.
> Wonder why that makes no mention of the circular saw.
> Looks like the "collar" they're using would make sustaining pressure for
> a topkill more practical now.

Well that assumes they get the cap on



> But they might be at the point mentally they just want to forge ahead
> with sucking up the oil to stop the increasing public hysteria.
> >
> >
> > You probably didn't know this, but it costs big big money to drill a
> > hole like this. And BP is acting as if doing anything that means losing
> > this hole would cost more than cleaning up the mess that follows if
> > they proceed to a conclusion that allows them to salvage the hole. If
> > they do succeed in turning this into a producing well their stock is
> > going to bounce right back to where it was so there is a massive amount
> > of money to be lost if they lose the hole.
> >
>
> They're drilling 2 relief well holes right now. To plug the cuurent
> hole.
> Maybe they can use part of that drilling to redirect the bit to punch
> another hole in the reservoir after they plug the leaking hole.
> They'll probably get their oil in any event.
>
>
From: cuhulin on
An Underwater Look At All The Surface Activity
http://www.rense.com/general91/under.htm
cuhulin

From: cuhulin on
A woman who used to live next door to me, she works offshore for Shell.I
once asked her what would she do if a big fire broke out on that oil
rig.She said she would get in a lifeboat and get the hell away from
there as fast as she could.
cuhulin

From: cuhulin on
Good old Jeri, (she works offshore for Shell) I am sure she knows all of
the proper procedures.
http://www.cowboysnightmare.com

One time, when she and her twin sister were living next door to me, they
wanted to cut off a limb way up high on a tree in the back yard over
there.Jeri's sister went up that ladder with my old electric chainsaw.I
loaned them my big heavy duty safety belt that I bought at a pawn shop
years ago.
Jeri's sister chickened out.Jeri said, Hand me that damn chainsaw! After
Jeri cut off that tree limb and came back down, I told her,,, I bet you
can't wiggle out of that belt without unbuckling it first.Skinny Jeri
wiggled out of that belt.
cuhulin