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From: PC Paul on 26 Aug 2007 17:00 Douglas Payne wrote: > Bob Sherunckle wrote everything there is to know about Metro 6R4s: > >> That's about it really. > > Heh, OK, next question, what do you know about this: > http://www.paynehq.com/gallery/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=5325 > Well the first two are of a car that's a whole lot slower than a 6R4. The third is a red version of a blue one I had lots of fun with myself, but significantly devalued by some strange blue and white sticker on the door. The fourth one is dull dull dull. 3/10 must try harder?
From: Pete M on 26 Aug 2007 17:02 Accompanied by the sound of a chisel on slate Bob Sherunckle,<zilspeed(a)beeteeopenworld.com> managed to produce the following words of wisdom > "Carl Gibbs" <cagmeister(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:5je44dF3tqf95U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >> "Bob Sherunckle" <zilspeed(a)beeteeopenworld.com> wrote in message >> news:8ZqdnXVf4csPREzbnZ2dnUVZ8qKvnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>> >>> >>>> >>>> (Nerd fact: the original engine design was sold to TWR and evolved >>>> into the lump used in the XJ220...) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Uber Nerd Facts. >>> >>> The engine designation was V64V, as in V6 4 Valve. It came in >>> International and Clubmans derivatives. >>> The very first develpment versions were Rover V8s with a couple of >>> cylinders lopped off. >>> >>> I reallllly need to get out more. >>> >> I want call it a 'Nerd Fact' but I'm not entirely sure I'm right, but >> wasn't there also RWD versions designated 6R2? >> > > Ok, let's take it to the next level - what's above Nerd ? > > Anyway.... > > Seeing as V64V engines were horrifically expensive to fix, and Rover > V8s weren't, it became quite popular to fit a Rover V8 onto a Hewland > FG transaxle, giving a 2wd 6R4. > Other engines also found their way in there. > > That's about it really. After GpB was banned there was a Scottish (I think) rally series where the 6R4 could be used but there was a capacity limit of 2500cc, so there were a few seriously mental ones with short stroke engines that revved to insane numbers. A long time ago I was taken for a spin in the ex-Tony Pond "Computervision" 6R4 by a mechanic mate.. Conversation was as follows Mech "You like quick stuff don't you?" Me "Yup" Mech "come for a spin in this thing, I need you to keep an eye on the rev counter, it's got a misfire at 7k" Me "Ok" Mimbled around in it for about 10 minutes while everything warmed up, felt a bit silly sitting in an extremely silly, insanely noisy GpB rally car, in a 6 point harness, with ear defender / intercom headset on in city traffic. As we approached a set of pedestrian crossing lights the mechanic said "Look at the rev counter, see if it flicks around at 7k rpm. I'll be too busy to watch it". Lights turned to green and he thrashed it like a red-headed stepchild. Me "Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckineeeeeeeeeellllllllll" Mech "No sign of a misfire there, better try again" I've been in some stupidly rapid stuff in my time, but that thing was /by far/ the fastest, noisiest, most uncomfortable, basically insane thing I've ever been in. Chirrup from the tyres and it just launched like nothing I've ever experienced - and that includes an 850 bhp, drum braked, '67 Camaro street / strip drag car. -- Pete M - That Scouse Git - OMF#9 W&P Range Rover V8 Turbo Golf GTi 2.0 (Mk2 - proper one)
From: Bob Sherunckle on 26 Aug 2007 17:39 "Douglas Payne" <douggie(a)cheerful.com> wrote in message news:5je7f0F3rfce4U1(a)mid.individual.net... > Bob Sherunckle wrote everything there is to know about Metro 6R4s: > >> That's about it really. > > Heh, OK, next question, what do you know about this: > http://www.paynehq.com/gallery/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=5325 > > -- > Douglas It's a Gartrac G3 MKIII Escrote. (Or a copy of one). It's the early 80s, everyone still wanted RWD, 4WD rally cars hadn't been invented yet, so Gartrac made shells to take all the oily bits from all the bent and Rusty RWD Escrotes. Everyone was happy.
From: PC Paul on 26 Aug 2007 17:44 Bob Sherunckle wrote: > "Douglas Payne" <douggie(a)cheerful.com> wrote in message > news:5je7f0F3rfce4U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> Bob Sherunckle wrote everything there is to know about Metro 6R4s: >> >>> That's about it really. >> Heh, OK, next question, what do you know about this: >> http://www.paynehq.com/gallery/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=5325 >> >> -- >> Douglas > > It's a Gartrac G3 MKIII Escrote. (Or a copy of one). > > It's the early 80s, everyone still wanted RWD, 4WD rally cars hadn't been > invented yet, so Gartrac made shells to take all the oily bits from all the > bent and Rusty RWD Escrotes. > > Everyone was happy. > > In that case, I take back the bit about it being far slower than a 6R4. If it's genuine. Although the claimed 2.1s 0-60 I found on the web seems to be pushing it a bit for Earth gravity? ISTR hearing more like 2.8s when they were first around?
From: Douglas Payne on 26 Aug 2007 19:28
PC Paul wrote: > Douglas Payne wrote: >> Bob Sherunckle wrote everything there is to know about Metro 6R4s: >> >>> That's about it really. >> >> Heh, OK, next question, what do you know about this: >> http://www.paynehq.com/gallery/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=5325 >> > > Well the first two are of a car that's a whole lot slower than a 6R4. > > The third is a red version of a blue one I had lots of fun with myself, > but significantly devalued by some strange blue and white sticker on the > door. > > The fourth one is dull dull dull. > > 3/10 must try harder? I'm trying to work out whether the URL wrapped and you got the index or something or whether you looked at the last 4 pictures in a series of 96 I took at a Hillclimb yesterday. The picture I tried to post a link to was of what looks like a MK3 Escort with knobbly tyres and RWD. (c: The final one is my choice of personal transportation. I couldn't afford anything based on the Golf floorpan. -- Douglas |