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From: Otto Yamamoto on 15 Feb 2010 14:26 On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:27:49 -0800, Larry G wrote: > how does China differ from Europe if both are considered to be > "socialist"? Neither is 'socialist'. China uses the *name* communist. http://www.politicalcompass.org/euchart gives a fair idea where EU governments fall politically. Actual Socialists would be in the (empty) upper left quadrant of the chart, allegedly 'socialist' Sweden is actually centre-right and very slightly libertarian. -- Otto Yamamoto
From: Larry G on 15 Feb 2010 16:29 On Feb 15, 12:17 pm, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On 2010-02-15, Larry G <gross.la...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 10:14 am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 2010-02-15, Larry G <gross.la...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > On Feb 15, 8:30 am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> On 2010-02-15, Otto Yamamoto <o...(a)yamamoto.cc> wrote: > > >> >> > On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:49:06 +0000, Brent wrote: > > >> >> >> China today is a nasty combination of crony capitalism and totalitarian > >> >> >> communism. > > >> >> > The 'communism' part is name-only. If China were truly communist, all > >> >> > enterprises would be state-owned. China is really closer to National > >> >> > Socialism(where the 'socialism' was also only a name) than anything else. > > >> >> Crony capitalism is for the people effectively corporatism/fascism. > >> > how does China differ from Europe if both are considered to be > >> > "socialist"? > > >> I am guessing you're familiar with the clean way political plunder is > >> done in the US and Europe through leglislation and the courts. In China > >> the violence and the theft isn't made so clean. Some times, people > >> actually fight back too: > > >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100121/ap_on_bi_ge/as_china_killer_hero > > >>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6999166.ece > > > well.. yes.. but educate me a little on the difference..... > > Not sure what you are getting at. That is the difference between the > US/Europe and China. In China it's out in the open and people aren't > kooks when they resist. it was sort of an open question since as of late, I've also heard folks talking about Europe being socialist...so then your statement got me to thinking about it... and I wouldn't be able to articulate the differences even though I suspect they are substantial. so.. twas an open question...no agenda.
From: Brent on 16 Feb 2010 22:42 On 2010-02-17, Matthew Russotto <russotto(a)grace.speakeasy.net> wrote: > In article <hl7pbs$b1v$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>You forgot the other option ofthe forclosing body making use oif the >>property. China has a lot of people and probably could use the space. >>The federal government owns A LOT of land. > > Foreclosure works when you can enforce it. China is not powerful > enough to foreclose on the US; they may have over a billion people, but they > can't project the force over here well enough. Their power is economic. Pull the plug on the dollar and wait for the US military to rust.
From: Matthew Russotto on 16 Feb 2010 19:02 In article <8e2594e5-77a8-4a0c-9327-27619143b0f9(a)c22g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, Larry G <gross.larry(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >well.. the day will come if not already here where some folks simply >will not be able to obtain insurance without agreeing. Guess I'll be driving uninsured, then. As will many others, over and above those who do now. -- The problem with socialism is there's always someone with less ability and more need.
From: Matthew Russotto on 16 Feb 2010 19:13
In article <hl7pbs$b1v$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >You forgot the other option ofthe forclosing body making use oif the >property. China has a lot of people and probably could use the space. >The federal government owns A LOT of land. Foreclosure works when you can enforce it. China is not powerful enough to foreclose on the US; they may have over a billion people, but they can't project the force over here well enough. -- The problem with socialism is there's always someone with less ability and more need. |