From: Derek C on
On Mar 29, 1:44 pm, Dave Plowman <d...(a)davesound.co.uk> wrote:
> In article
> <9e44ee26-66d2-4363-b75a-04eec06ed...(a)19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>,
>    Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > When I have rented a vehicle in the past, it has always either come
> > full of fuel and you return it full (or get charged at a slightly
> > extortionate rate for refuelling it), or nearly empty and you return
> > that way.
>
> Any time I've hired a car with a 'full' tank, you can always squeeze a few
> more gallons in. Return it with a *totally* full tank and you'll still get
> charged for filling it.

>
I can't say that I have ever found that, even with Hertz, as long as
you return the car with a really totally full tank.

Personally I prefer the take it out almost empty and return it that
way system, as long as there is a garage somewhere nearby. That way
you can just put in what you are likely to use and there is no chance
of the hire car company adding an unexpected extra charge for fuel.

Derek C

From: Mike P on
On 29 Mar, 12:26, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:
>
> > the car hire was booked through Ryanair
>
> All becomes clear.
>
> The headline price was all that was looked at, without all the penny-
> pinching being considered.

Someone sent me the following Ryanair "joke"...

Let's spare a thought for Michael O'Leary, Chief Executive of Ryanair.
Arriving in a hotel in Dublin , he went to the bar and asked for a
pint
of Guinness.

The barman nodded and said "that will be one Euro please, Mr.
O'Leary"
to which Michael replied "that's a very competitive price" and handed
over
his money.

"Will you be wanting a glass with your Guinness, sir?" enquired the
barman....

Mike P
From: Graham Harrison on

"Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9e44ee26-66d2-4363-b75a-04eec06edb6c(a)19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
> We have just been on holiday in Spain and rented a Hertz car. We were
> required to pay for a full tank of fuel which is non-refundable
> whether or not you use it.
>
> When I have rented a vehicle in the past, it has always either come
> full of fuel and you return it full (or get charged at a slightly
> extortionate rate for refuelling it), or nearly empty and you return
> that way.
>
> As it happened we where just able to use all the fuel, but only
> because we went on a long sight seeing expedition on a rainy day. This
> practice hardly encourages you to conserve valuable fossil fuel, or to
> limit your CO2 emissions!
>
> Hertz also charge an extortionate amount extra for adding an extra
> driver to the insurance and for damage waiver. You may therefore wish
> to consider other car hire companies.
>
> I intend to write to my MP and Euro MPs to complain about the above
> scams and would recommend that you do the same.
>
> Derek C

Hertz are by no means the only company doing this. The methodology is
often to try and sell it to you by saying that the price of fuel at the
local petrol stations is higher than they will charge - yeah right! The
only place where I once thought about it was Denver. The airport there has
an expensive filling station but because it's in the middle of nowhere it's
a good few miles to the next station. However, the US companies seem to
just look at the fuel gauge so even if you fill up 15 miles away the needle
will still be on F.

From: Derek C on
On Mar 29, 2:01 pm, "Graham Harrison"
<edward.harris...(a)remove.btinternet.com> wrote:
> "Derek C" <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:9e44ee26-66d2-4363-b75a-04eec06edb6c(a)19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > We have just been on holiday in Spain and rented a Hertz car. We were
> > required to pay for a full tank of fuel which is non-refundable
> > whether or not you use it.
>
> > When I have rented a vehicle in the past, it has always either come
> > full of fuel and you return it full (or get charged at a slightly
> > extortionate rate for refuelling it), or nearly empty and you return
> > that way.
>
> > As it happened we where just able to use all the fuel, but only
> > because we went on a long sight seeing expedition on a rainy day. This
> > practice hardly encourages you to conserve valuable fossil fuel, or to
> > limit your CO2 emissions!
>
> > Hertz also charge an extortionate amount extra for adding an extra
> > driver to the insurance and for damage waiver. You may therefore wish
> > to consider other car hire companies.
>
> > I intend to write to my MP and Euro MPs to complain about the above
> > scams and would recommend that you do the same.
>
> > Derek C
>
> Hertz are by no means the only company doing this.   The methodology is
> often to try and sell it to you by saying that the price of fuel at the
> local petrol stations is higher than they will charge - yeah right!   The
> only place where I once thought about it was Denver.   The airport there has
> an expensive filling station but because it's in the middle of nowhere it's
> a good few miles to the next station.   However, the US companies seem to
> just look at the fuel gauge so even if you fill up 15 miles away the needle
> will still be on F.- Hide quoted text -
>
At least it sounds as though you were offered a choice. We weren't,
because the car came with a full tank of fuel that we were forced to
pay for.

Derek C
From: Man at B&Q on
On Mar 29, 2:17 pm, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 2:01 pm, "Graham Harrison"
>
> <edward.harris...(a)remove.btinternet.com> wrote:
> > "Derek C" <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> >news:9e44ee26-66d2-4363-b75a-04eec06edb6c(a)19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > We have just been on holiday in Spain and rented a Hertz car. We were
> > > required to pay for a full tank of fuel which is non-refundable
> > > whether or not you use it.
>
> > > When I have rented a vehicle in the past, it has always either come
> > > full of fuel and you return it full (or get charged at a slightly
> > > extortionate rate for refuelling it), or nearly empty and you return
> > > that way.
>
> > > As it happened we where just able to use all the fuel, but only
> > > because we went on a long sight seeing expedition on a rainy day. This
> > > practice hardly encourages you to conserve valuable fossil fuel, or to
> > > limit your CO2 emissions!
>
> > > Hertz also charge an extortionate amount extra for adding an extra
> > > driver to the insurance and for damage waiver. You may therefore wish
> > > to consider other car hire companies.
>
> > > I intend to write to my MP and Euro MPs to complain about the above
> > > scams and would recommend that you do the same.
>
> > > Derek C
>
> > Hertz are by no means the only company doing this.   The methodology is
> > often to try and sell it to you by saying that the price of fuel at the
> > local petrol stations is higher than they will charge - yeah right!   The
> > only place where I once thought about it was Denver.   The airport there has
> > an expensive filling station but because it's in the middle of nowhere it's
> > a good few miles to the next station.   However, the US companies seem to
> > just look at the fuel gauge so even if you fill up 15 miles away the needle
> > will still be on F.- Hide quoted text -
>
> At least it sounds as though you were offered a choice. We weren't,
> because the car came with a full tank of fuel that we were forced to
> pay for.
>
> Derek C

I still haven't seen you answer Brimstone's question "didn't you read
the terms and conditions?"

MBQ