From: Ray O on

"Scott Dorsey" <kludge(a)panix.com> wrote in message
news:i2c42f$2ga$1(a)panix2.panix.com...
> Ray O <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>
>>I second the carbon buildup on the valves. Hook up a vacuum gauge, and
>>when
>>the problem is occurring, see if vacuum drops. If the Techron doesn't
>>work,
>>find a shop with Motor-Vac or that has a way to do the walnut shell blast.
>
> The original poster mentioned using high-test gasoline in it just because
> it was cheap right now.
>
> If you run enough high-test in an engine designed with fairly low
> compression,
> you're apt to wind up with carbon deposits as a result.
> --scott
> --

Good point. Use what the owner's manual says to use.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)



From: Clive on
In message <i2drad$pc7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Ray O
<rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> writes
>"Scott Dorsey" <kludge(a)panix.com> wrote in message
>news:i2c42f$2ga$1(a)panix2.panix.com...
>> Ray O <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>>I second the carbon buildup on the valves. Hook up a vacuum gauge, and
>>>when
>>>the problem is occurring, see if vacuum drops. If the Techron doesn't
>>>work,
>>>find a shop with Motor-Vac or that has a way to do the walnut shell blast.
>> The original poster mentioned using high-test gasoline in it just because
>> it was cheap right now.
>> If you run enough high-test in an engine designed with fairly low
>> compression,
>> you're apt to wind up with carbon deposits as a result.
>> --scott
>Good point. Use what the owner's manual says to use.
Over here, we only get one Petrol and that's about 95 RON. De-coking,
or you might call it decarbonising is now very rare with today's modern
fuels, 50 years ago a de-coke might have been performed ever 20k or so
but with the detergents now in fuel a good blast down the motorway
normally cleans out any muck that might have accumulated during light
start stop, idling type of driving.
--
Clive

From: Ray O on

"Clive" <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:XkaPZWE1osSMFwaA(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk...
> In message <i2drad$pc7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Ray O
> <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> writes
>>"Scott Dorsey" <kludge(a)panix.com> wrote in message
>>news:i2c42f$2ga$1(a)panix2.panix.com...
>>> Ray O <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>>>I second the carbon buildup on the valves. Hook up a vacuum gauge, and
>>>>when
>>>>the problem is occurring, see if vacuum drops. If the Techron doesn't
>>>>work,
>>>>find a shop with Motor-Vac or that has a way to do the walnut shell
>>>>blast.
>>> The original poster mentioned using high-test gasoline in it just
>>> because
>>> it was cheap right now.
>>> If you run enough high-test in an engine designed with fairly low
>>> compression,
>>> you're apt to wind up with carbon deposits as a result.
>>> --scott
>>Good point. Use what the owner's manual says to use.
> Over here, we only get one Petrol and that's about 95 RON. De-coking, or
> you might call it decarbonising is now very rare with today's modern
> fuels, 50 years ago a de-coke might have been performed ever 20k or so but
> with the detergents now in fuel a good blast down the motorway normally
> cleans out any muck that might have accumulated during light start stop,
> idling type of driving.
> --
> Clive
>

I have not run across valves with deposits in a long time - I suppose that
the fuel additives actually work!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:10:45 +0100, Clive wrote:

> In message <i2drad$pc7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Ray O
> <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> writes
>>"Scott Dorsey" <kludge(a)panix.com> wrote in message
>>news:i2c42f$2ga$1(a)panix2.panix.com...
>>> Ray O <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>>>I second the carbon buildup on the valves. Hook up a vacuum gauge, and
>>>>when
>>>>the problem is occurring, see if vacuum drops. If the Techron doesn't
>>>>work,
>>>>find a shop with Motor-Vac or that has a way to do the walnut shell blast.
>>> The original poster mentioned using high-test gasoline in it just because
>>> it was cheap right now.
>>> If you run enough high-test in an engine designed with fairly low
>>> compression,
>>> you're apt to wind up with carbon deposits as a result.
>>> --scott
>>Good point. Use what the owner's manual says to use.
> Over here, we only get one Petrol and that's about 95 RON. De-coking,
> or you might call it decarbonising is now very rare with today's modern
> fuels, 50 years ago a de-coke might have been performed ever 20k or so
> but with the detergents now in fuel a good blast down the motorway
> normally cleans out any muck that might have accumulated during light
> start stop, idling type of driving.

I used to have one of these back in the 70's

http://hem.passagen.se/bubben0205/bilder/1800es.jpg

A "good blast down the motorway" was required about every 7-10 days.
Going up through the gears, by the time you hit 4th at ~65MPH all of a
sudden the car would start to stumble, and then WHAM! Off to the races.



From: Scott Dorsey on
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>
>This car ran the best on mid-grade. The next fill up I am going to fill it
>with mid grade. I did so much running the last couple days it's at about a
>quarter tank now...

If the engine is designed to run on regular, but it runs better on the
mid-grade now, that's another sign of heavy carbon buildup. The actual
combustion area has become smaller because of the carbon packed on the
piston.

>And another bottle of Techron.

I don't know how much good that stuff really does, but it won't hurt.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."