From: Silk on
On 13/06/2010 15:23, NM wrote:
> On 13 June, 15:10, Silk<m...(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>> On 13/06/2010 14:22, NM wrote:
>>
>>> It does, try entering such a road when it's busy, you need to wait for
>>> a gap in the lorry 'train' before you launch yourself from the slip
>>> road, similarly you need to plan ahead to find a suitable gap long
>>> before your exit, some don't this can lead to very hairy cutting
>>> across the bows.
>>
>> The lorries should be leaving a larger gap as a matter or course. If
>> not, they should be prosecuted for driving with excess meat to the head.
>
> Why? They are doing nothing wrong, they are complying with law, if you
> find their behaviour irritating then why are you not campaigning for
> the law to be changed instead of whinging and calling them stupid, I'm
> not sure they are the only stupid ones.

They should be leaving a decent gap for something called safety. Not a
concept lorry drivers are familiar with, so it would seem.
From: Brimstone on

"Silk" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On 13/06/2010 15:23, NM wrote:
>> On 13 June, 15:10, Silk<m...(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>>> On 13/06/2010 14:22, NM wrote:
>>>
>>>> It does, try entering such a road when it's busy, you need to wait for
>>>> a gap in the lorry 'train' before you launch yourself from the slip
>>>> road, similarly you need to plan ahead to find a suitable gap long
>>>> before your exit, some don't this can lead to very hairy cutting
>>>> across the bows.
>>>
>>> The lorries should be leaving a larger gap as a matter or course. If
>>> not, they should be prosecuted for driving with excess meat to the head.
>>
>> Why? They are doing nothing wrong, they are complying with law, if you
>> find their behaviour irritating then why are you not campaigning for
>> the law to be changed instead of whinging and calling them stupid, I'm
>> not sure they are the only stupid ones.
>
> They should be leaving a decent gap for something called safety. Not a
> concept lorry drivers are familiar with, so it would seem.

Do you consider such a gap long enough to move a car into at 56 mph?


From: JNugent on
NM wrote:
> On 13 June, 14:20, JNugent <J...(a)nonexistentaddress.com> wrote:
>> NM wrote:
>>> On 13 June, 11:29, Nick Finnigan <n...(a)genie.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> NM wrote:
>>>>> others point of view, clue, motorways are not there for the sole use
>>>>> of motorists,
>>>> erm...
>>> Constructed principally for the movement of freight
>> Often erroneously claimed. Never proven.
>
> You believe what you want, no amount of 'proof' will change your
> entrenched position, we have been down this road before.

Indeed we have.

And the reason I say "Often erroneously claimed. Never proven." is very obvious.

You, of course, are chhosing - on the basis of no evidence - to believe what
you wish to believe.

> In the event of a national emergency, like an escalation of the fuel
> crisis of the seventies for example, what will be the first vehicles
> banned from using the M ways, could it be private cars? Feeding the
> people will take precedence over a rep trying to keep a bussiness
> lunch appointment.

What does that matter? What has it to do with the completely non-existent
official statement that motorways are "for freight"?
From: JNugent on
NM wrote:
> On 13 June, 15:10, Silk <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>> On 13/06/2010 14:22, NM wrote:
>>
>>> It does, try entering such a road when it's busy, you need to wait for
>>> a gap in the lorry 'train' before you launch yourself from the slip
>>> road, similarly you need to plan ahead to find a suitable gap long
>>> before your exit, some don't this can lead to very hairy cutting
>>> across the bows.
>> The lorries should be leaving a larger gap as a matter or course. If
>> not, they should be prosecuted for driving with excess meat to the head.
>
> Why? They are doing nothing wrong, they are complying with law,

Driving too close to the vehicle in front is not complying with the law.
Failing to allow overtaking traffic (on the right) to pull left (and failing
to leave a gap into which that traffic *can* pull left) is similarly unlawful.

From: Brimstone on

"JNugent" <JN(a)nonexistentaddress.com> wrote in message
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> NM wrote:
>> On 13 June, 15:10, Silk <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>>> On 13/06/2010 14:22, NM wrote:
>>>
>>>> It does, try entering such a road when it's busy, you need to wait for
>>>> a gap in the lorry 'train' before you launch yourself from the slip
>>>> road, similarly you need to plan ahead to find a suitable gap long
>>>> before your exit, some don't this can lead to very hairy cutting
>>>> across the bows.
>>> The lorries should be leaving a larger gap as a matter or course. If
>>> not, they should be prosecuted for driving with excess meat to the head.
>>
>> Why? They are doing nothing wrong, they are complying with law,
>
> Driving too close to the vehicle in front is not complying with the law.

Define "too close".

> Failing to allow overtaking traffic (on the right) to pull left (and
> failing to leave a gap into which that traffic *can* pull left) is
> similarly unlawful.
>
Under what legislation?