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From: Noddy on 20 May 2010 10:31 "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message news:4bf53ed9$0$27809$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > These days a shotgun diagnosis is enough to warrant relieving the customer > of a couple of grand, unfortunately ;-) You're not wrong :) -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Clocky on 20 May 2010 11:51 Noddy wrote: > "jonz" <fj40(a)deisel.com> wrote in message > news:4bf4a49e$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > >> Too late, been there, done that....:^) > > That explains *so* much :) LOL, doesn't it ever :-)
From: Feral on 20 May 2010 16:03 Andy wrote: > > Me either. What's 'TK' meant to stand for then? > Here's part of my post to xr8sprintless, mid-morning yesterday. <quote> Tee-Kay Professional Head Check Kit >> http://www.revheads.com.au/clearance_items.html Look under tools for STE K100. $148.65 </quote> -- Take Care. ~~ Feral Al ( @..@) (\- :-P -/) ((.>__oo__<.)) ^^^ % ^^^
From: Jason James on 20 May 2010 16:15 "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message news:4bf53ed9$0$27809$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Noddy wrote: >> "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message >> news:4bf535ee$0$27823$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> >>> In the right hands the TK test can be very effective and accurate, >>> but in the wrong hands they can be equally as effective, if you know >>> what I mean. >> >> I do. >> >> I preferred the good old cooling system pressure tester myself, and >> Warren & Brown made an excellent one. The gauge was very sensitive >> and would register very small changes in pressure, which made it >> great for detecting minor combustion leaks. Whack it on the radiator, >> put in some pressure and start the engine, and if there was a slight >> leak the needle would dance around with the pulses and let you know >> there was a problem. >> All up it would take around 5 minutes, and there were no consumables >> to use. > > We had both, and used one test against the other to verify the diagnosis. > > These days a shotgun diagnosis is enough to warrant relieving the customer > of a couple of grand, unfortunately ;-) While in the case of an overheating problem, doing a "shotgun" (a term we also used in radio-maint, when every capacitor for example, was replaced to eliminate an intermittant) has merit, due all the stuff changed needed it anyway,..I don't hold the same view for hours claimed on the job, in such an endeavour tho. Fast and accurate fault diagnosis is an ability worth its weight in gold. Many techs, would just do a hit and miss, or a shotgun. The guy who took the *time to understand the gear*, how it works and how it responds to each component failure, usually got the promotions when they came along. You could take any maintenance group, and virtually always, there was a 'hotshot' whom the supervisor kept to work on gear of a high need, meaning little or no outages tolerated, or "novel and complex" equipment. This concept, of a technician who actually took the time to study his equipment, was often not unaminous. The section supervisor made a big difference too. Some went so far as to direct a new tech to study a piece of gear, then set an exam to test him out. It was fairly standard for a new tech to wait up to a couple of years of 'on the job' training and extensive study, before he was allowed to work on some high-dependency and critical outage equipment, while alone. In any case tho, it was often deemed mandatory, to have 2 techs working on such gear, anyway. Jason
From: Milton on 20 May 2010 20:41
"Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message news:4bf55a5c$0$8823$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Noddy wrote: >> "jonz" <fj40(a)deisel.com> wrote in message >> news:4bf4a49e$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... >> >>> Too late, been there, done that....:^) >> >> That explains *so* much :) > > LOL, doesn't it ever :-) > I'm glad you blokes understand it. Got me beat. Regards Milton |