From: Noddy on

"Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
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> These days a shotgun diagnosis is enough to warrant relieving the customer
> of a couple of grand, unfortunately ;-)

You're not wrong :)

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From: Clocky on
Noddy wrote:
> "jonz" <fj40(a)deisel.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Too late, been there, done that....:^)
>
> That explains *so* much :)

LOL, doesn't it ever :-)


From: Feral on
Andy wrote:
>
> Me either. What's 'TK' meant to stand for then?
>
Here's part of my post to xr8sprintless, mid-morning yesterday.

<quote>

Tee-Kay Professional Head Check Kit

>> http://www.revheads.com.au/clearance_items.html


Look under tools for STE K100. $148.65

</quote>

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From: Jason James on

"Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
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> Noddy wrote:
>> "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>> In the right hands the TK test can be very effective and accurate,
>>> but in the wrong hands they can be equally as effective, if you know
>>> what I mean.
>>
>> I do.
>>
>> I preferred the good old cooling system pressure tester myself, and
>> Warren & Brown made an excellent one. The gauge was very sensitive
>> and would register very small changes in pressure, which made it
>> great for detecting minor combustion leaks. Whack it on the radiator,
>> put in some pressure and start the engine, and if there was a slight
>> leak the needle would dance around with the pulses and let you know
>> there was a problem.
>> All up it would take around 5 minutes, and there were no consumables
>> to use.
>
> We had both, and used one test against the other to verify the diagnosis.
>
> These days a shotgun diagnosis is enough to warrant relieving the customer
> of a couple of grand, unfortunately ;-)

While in the case of an overheating problem, doing a "shotgun" (a term we
also used in radio-maint, when every capacitor for example, was replaced to
eliminate an intermittant) has merit, due all the stuff changed needed it
anyway,..I don't hold the same view for hours claimed on the job, in such an
endeavour tho.
Fast and accurate fault diagnosis is an ability worth its weight in gold.
Many techs, would just do a hit and miss, or a shotgun. The guy who took the
*time to understand the gear*, how it works and how it responds to each
component failure, usually got the promotions when they came along. You
could take any maintenance group, and virtually always, there was a
'hotshot' whom the supervisor kept to work on gear of a high need, meaning
little or no outages tolerated, or "novel and complex" equipment.

This concept, of a technician who actually took the time to study his
equipment, was often not unaminous. The section supervisor made a big
difference too. Some went so far as to direct a new tech to study a piece of
gear, then set an exam to test him out. It was fairly standard for a new
tech to wait up to a couple of years of 'on the job' training and extensive
study, before he was allowed to work on some high-dependency and critical
outage equipment, while alone. In any case tho, it was often deemed
mandatory, to have 2 techs working on such gear, anyway.

Jason


From: Milton on

"Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
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> Noddy wrote:
>> "jonz" <fj40(a)deisel.com> wrote in message
>> news:4bf4a49e$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>
>>> Too late, been there, done that....:^)
>>
>> That explains *so* much :)
>
> LOL, doesn't it ever :-)
>
I'm glad you blokes understand it. Got me beat.

Regards

Milton