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From: hippo on 3 Jun 2010 03:59
> "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
> > You're either plain stupid or a naive numpty if you believe there is such
> > a thing as a cooling system "specialist".
> plus ever heard of Natrad? Have fun worming your way here.
How can I put this diplomatically?
20 something years ago, a certain anonymous radiator shop completely
misdiagnosed an overheating problem on a car of mine and declared it
fixed. A succession of cirucmstances, a couple admittedly nothing to do
with them, led to the virtual destruction of the engine.
Three years ago, the same workhsop, now listed as a local representative
of a national radiator specialist was given a 99 Mondeo and requested to
change the fan thermo switch (on fan and motor tested ok) and thermostat
(thought to be jammed open from over the phone diag attempt, but actually
missing in the event!), then diagnose and report *only* on any other
cooling system problem(s) found.
T/stat changed. Thermo switch was reported 'checked ok'. They told my son
that it was "fine and if your dad knew anything about cars he'd know that
if it wasn't working, the car wouldn't start either because that's how
Over the next weekk, the car boiled dry five times in five days. My D.i.L.
is very trusting of workshops and not very observant of billowing steam
(the gauge had stopped working) but she's improved a lot since this on
They requested the car back to check it over and replaced the radiator and
a few hoses at horrendous cost (over $1000) without fixing the problem and
without noticing that the fan was never cutting in at all..
Long story short - the car overheated sufficiently that much of the wiring
loom was significantly damaged, "failed to proceed" and was towed to our
longsuffering local sparkie, who was about to retire in a couple of weeks.
The thermo switch and fan sensor *had* failed and miraculously 'tested ok'
despite not only being stuffed but also being buried under sufficient
grease to hide a cable that had snapped off a connector. Sensor changed,
wiring fixed up as well as possible and car then traded for 2.5K on his
In the end, a reasonably happy outcome, but a sad loss of what was
actually a bloody economical car (6-7L/100Km rural, 8-9 urban from an
AUTO) that was very enjoyable to punt round twisty roads. Over $1000 spent
and the actual problem not even identified, never mind fixed. Some
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From: Milton on 5 Jun 2010 01:39
"hippo" <am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote in
> In the end, a reasonably happy outcome, but a sad loss of what was
> actually a bloody economical car (6-7L/100Km rural, 8-9 urban from an
> AUTO) that was very enjoyable to punt round twisty roads. Over $1000 spent
> and the actual problem not even identified, never mind fixed. Some
> 'specialist'. Cheers
Thanks for the concise explanation and I'm sorry to hear that. When I said
specialist I didn't mean anyone who wants to call themselves that, but an
accredited operator, usually a highly qualified mechanic. I'm explaining my
meaning of a specialist to you as you sound a genuine kind of guy, unlike
the nongs in here who jump on the wagon just to rattle their empties to be