From: Tony Dragon on 9 Feb 2010 14:58 Brimstone wrote: > > > "Norman Wells" <cut-me-own-throat(a)dibblers-pies.co.am> wrote in message > news:R1hcn.254433$cU2.68214(a)newsfe22.ams2... >> Doug wrote: >>> On 9 Feb, 09:37, "Norman Wells" <cut-me-own-thr...(a)dibblers- >>> pies.co.am> wrote: >>>> Doug wrote: >>>>> Also road deaths are among the top ten causes of death in the world, >>>>> as a matter of interest for those here who are trying to play them >>>>> down, at nine and is sixth in middle-income countries.. Now try to >>>>> say they do not matter. >>>> >>>> To put all this in perspective, 830,000 die annually in the UK, >>>> 2,500 of those from road accidents. >>>> >>> Closer to 3,000 plus those who die after 30 days of injury. >> >> It was actually 2538 in 2008. >> >> And you can compare that, if you like, with 8609 in 1940. >> >> In fact, if you look at the statistics over the years, Doug, you'll >> find that the relationship between deaths and car numbers on the roads >> is actually an inverse one. The greater the number of cars on the >> road, the fewer fatalities. >> >> Why on earth are you not therefore advocating more and more cars >> rather than fewer? It would save lives. >> >> >>>> Road deaths thus account for just 3 in every 1000 deaths in the UK. >>>> 99.7% of deaths occur because of other causes. >>>> >>> But they are not killed by other people. >> >> Not all of course, but a significant number, well in excess of those >> that die on the roads, are killed through the negligence or >> contributory negligence of others, by murder, manslaughter, neglect, >> or other accidents. >> >>>> >>>> There is a 1 in 26000 chance of you dying in a road accident in any >>>> one year. >>>> >>> Or about 1 in 266 in a lifetime. >> >> i.e. once in 266 lifetimes. >> >> Even if that is right, that still means 99.6% of deaths are from other >> causes. >> >> But it's only right in Dougworld, where life expectancy is apparently >> 97.74 years. Back in the real world it's considerably lower, at about >> 80 years. >> >> If there's a 1 in 26000 chance of you dying in a road accident in any >> one year, then on average you'd have to live for 26000 years before >> you died in one. I think most would take that risk in order to get >> around, don't you? >> >> Whatever you say, Doug, it's pretty small beer. >> > Another interesting aspect is that the majority of people are never > injured in a road traffic collision in their lives and yet Doug manages > at least two, possibly more. > > I wonder haw many accidents (sorry collisions / rammings)Doug has caused? -- Tony Dragon
From: Christopher Bowlas on 9 Feb 2010 16:31 On Feb 9, 7:58 pm, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > Brimstone wrote: > > "Norman Wells" <cut-me-own-thr...(a)dibblers-pies.co.am> wrote in message > >news:R1hcn.254433$cU2.68214(a)newsfe22.ams2... > >> Doug wrote: > >>> On 9 Feb, 09:37, "Norman Wells" <cut-me-own-thr...(a)dibblers- > >>> pies.co.am> wrote: > >>>> Doug wrote: > >>>>> Also road deaths are among the top ten causes of death in the world, > >>>>> as a matter of interest for those here who are trying to play them > >>>>> down, at nine and is sixth in middle-income countries.. Now try to > >>>>> say they do not matter. > > >>>> To put all this in perspective, 830,000 die annually in the UK, > >>>> 2,500 of those from road accidents. > > >>> Closer to 3,000 plus those who die after 30 days of injury. > > >> It was actually 2538 in 2008. > > >> And you can compare that, if you like, with 8609 in 1940. > > >> In fact, if you look at the statistics over the years, Doug, you'll > >> find that the relationship between deaths and car numbers on the roads > >> is actually an inverse one. The greater the number of cars on the > >> road, the fewer fatalities. > > >> Why on earth are you not therefore advocating more and more cars > >> rather than fewer? It would save lives. > > >>>> Road deaths thus account for just 3 in every 1000 deaths in the UK. > >>>> 99.7% of deaths occur because of other causes. > > >>> But they are not killed by other people. > > >> Not all of course, but a significant number, well in excess of those > >> that die on the roads, are killed through the negligence or > >> contributory negligence of others, by murder, manslaughter, neglect, > >> or other accidents. > > >>>> There is a 1 in 26000 chance of you dying in a road accident in any > >>>> one year. > > >>> Or about 1 in 266 in a lifetime. > > >> i.e. once in 266 lifetimes. > > >> Even if that is right, that still means 99.6% of deaths are from other > >> causes. > > >> But it's only right in Dougworld, where life expectancy is apparently > >> 97.74 years. Back in the real world it's considerably lower, at about > >> 80 years. > > >> If there's a 1 in 26000 chance of you dying in a road accident in any > >> one year, then on average you'd have to live for 26000 years before > >> you died in one. I think most would take that risk in order to get > >> around, don't you? > > >> Whatever you say, Doug, it's pretty small beer. > > > Another interesting aspect is that the majority of people are never > > injured in a road traffic collision in their lives and yet Doug manages > > at least two, possibly more. > > I wonder haw many accidents (sorry collisions / rammings)Doug has caused? And whether he was wearing a plastic hat at the time?
From: Christopher Bowlas on 9 Feb 2010 16:33 On Feb 7, 9:09 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: > On 5 Feb, 20:25, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- > blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > Doug wrote: > > > Fatal injuries are recorded up to 30 days following a crash but how > > > many die later from their injuries and are unrecorded? > > > >http://www.brake.org.uk/facts/faqukcasualties/1914 > > > > "In 2007 (the latest year for which statistics are available) 2,946 > > > people were killed on Britains roads [1]. > > > Hmmm. 0.00491% of the population. Statistically irrelevant. > > > Heart disease - 20.2% > > Cerebrovascular diseases - 7.9% > > Lung cancer - 6.9% > > Chronic lower respiratory disease - 5.6% > > Flu/pneumonia - 5% > > Prostate cancer - 3.7% > > Colon cancer - 3.1% > > Lymph cancers - 2.3% > > Alzheimer's disease/dementia - 2.1% > > Aortic aneurysm - 2% > > Very few of which are directly caused by other people, unlike road > deaths. You see it is considered very bad in a civilised society to > actually kill people, even if the punishments for doing so on our > roads are slight to none. How about boring people to death?
From: Christopher Bowlas on 9 Feb 2010 16:41 On Feb 9, 7:31 am, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > news:a7349974-4c11-4050-a7c9-be94f41cf72f(a)f12g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > > > What about, say, damage to the spine and paralysis of the lower body > > which can have a serious effect on long-term health? Anything which > > permanently affects quality of life can shorten life. > > The number of times that you've been hit by cars seems to disprove that > theory Doug, otherwise you wouldn't still be breathing and bashing out the > same tired old messages. Perhaps those collisions only caused brain damage?
From: Christopher Bowlas on 9 Feb 2010 16:43
On Feb 9, 7:41 am, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > > > Also road deaths are among the top ten causes of death in the world, as > > a matter of interest for those here who are trying to play them down, at > > nine and is sixth in middle-income countries.. Now try to say they do > > not matter. > > >http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs310/en/index.html > > Actually, I think you'll find that that proves the point that - in the UK > - they are relatively insignificant. > > If you want to address the subject in other countries, please - feel free.. > > ca.driving - Canada > alt.autos - US > rec.autos.driving - US > aus.cars - Australia alt.usenet.kooks ? |