How many die later from serious injuries on our roads?
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From: "Nightjar "cpb" on 9 Feb 2010 02:43 Doug wrote: > On 8 Feb, 21:45, "Nightjar <\"cpb\"@" <"insertmysurnamehere> wrote: >> Doug wrote: >>> On 5 Feb, 20:25, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- >>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>> Doug wrote: >>>>> Fatal injuries are recorded up to 30 days following a crash but how >>>>> many die later from their injuries and are unrecorded? >> Thirty days after an incident has been chosen in several areas of >> medicine, as a result of long exerience, as the point at which death has >> a very low probability of being linked to it. Where studies have been >> carried out, they support that choice. A good example is sudden cardiac >> death following a heart attack. The probability of death within the >> first 30 days is about the same as during the entire following year, >> when it is lower than the average for the general population. >> >> >> >>>>> http://www.brake.org.uk/facts/faqukcasualties/1914 >>>>> "In 2007 (the latest year for which statistics are available) 2,946 >>>>> people were killed on Britain�s roads [1]. >>>> Hmmm. 0.00491% of the population. Statistically irrelevant. >>>> Heart disease - 20.2% >>>> Cerebrovascular diseases - 7.9% >>>> Lung cancer - 6.9% >>>> Chronic lower respiratory disease - 5.6% >>>> Flu/pneumonia - 5% >>>> Prostate cancer - 3.7% >>>> Colon cancer - 3.1% >>>> Lymph cancers - 2.3% >>>> Alzheimer's disease/dementia - 2.1% >>>> Aortic aneurysm - 2% >>> Very few of which are directly caused by other people, unlike road >>> deaths. >> Nevertheless, most are preventable or treatable. Are you saying we >> should divert money from try to prevent deaths from some of the major >> killers in society to a very minor one? >> > Killing people is not minor. All of the things above kill people. The question is, should we divert resources away from the major causes of death, some of which are on the increase, to a minor and significantly decreasing one? > It is very serious indeed, though for > some obscure reason it is not treated as such when it happens on a > road and such deaths seem to be regarded very casually indeed on > newsgroups such as this, by drivers of course. It is treated seriously and the Government already spends vast sums of money trying to improve the figures, with considerable success: In the 40 years since 1967: Casualties per 100 million vehicle kilometers down from 199 to 48 Pedestrian deaths down from 2,964 to 646 which, unlike the previous figure, makes no allowance for the increasing level of traffic http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1208 > What about, say, damage to the spine and paralysis of the lower body > which can have a serious effect on long-term health? Anything which > permanently affects quality of life can shorten life. What about chronic heart disease, COPD or any of the other medical conditions that can do the same? Again, I ask you, should we be diverting money away from them to spend in an area that is already showing significant and continued improvement? Colin Bignell
From: Adrian on 9 Feb 2010 02:50 "Nightjar <\"cpb\"@" <"insertmysurnamehere> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > Again, I ask you, should we be diverting money away from them to spend > in an area that is already showing significant and continued > improvement? You forget one subtle detail. Since he's never paid any significant amount of tax in his life, Duhg has no frame of reference to help him wrap his tiny little brain around the link between taxation and government expenditure.
From: Norman Wells on 9 Feb 2010 04:37 Doug wrote: > Also road deaths are among the top ten causes of death in the world, > as a matter of interest for those here who are trying to play them > down, at nine and is sixth in middle-income countries.. Now try to say > they do not matter. To put all this in perspective, 830,000 die annually in the UK, 2,500 of those from road accidents. Road deaths thus account for just 3 in every 1000 deaths in the UK. 99.7% of deaths occur because of other causes. There is a 1 in 26000 chance of you dying in a road accident in any one year. Whatever you say, Doug, it's pretty small beer.
From: Adrian on 9 Feb 2010 04:53 "Norman Wells" <cut-me-own-throat(a)dibblers-pies.co.am> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> Also road deaths are among the top ten causes of death in the world, as >> a matter of interest for those here who are trying to play them down, >> at nine and is sixth in middle-income countries.. Now try to say they >> do not matter. > To put all this in perspective, 830,000 die annually in the UK, 2,500 of > those from road accidents. > > Road deaths thus account for just 3 in every 1000 deaths in the UK. > 99.7% of deaths occur because of other causes. > > There is a 1 in 26000 chance of you dying in a road accident in any one > year. Now take out those who contribute to their own demise through fuckwittery and failure to adhere to the current laws & guidelines on road use... > Whatever you say, Doug, it's pretty small beer. ITYF it's a few large beers that are behind a lot of 'em...
From: Doug on 9 Feb 2010 07:56
On 9 Feb, 09:37, "Norman Wells" <cut-me-own-thr...(a)dibblers- pies.co.am> wrote: > Doug wrote: > > Also road deaths are among the top ten causes of death in the world, > > as a matter of interest for those here who are trying to play them > > down, at nine and is sixth in middle-income countries.. Now try to say > > they do not matter. > > To put all this in perspective, 830,000 die annually in the UK, 2,500 of > those from road accidents. > Closer to 3,000 plus those who die after 30 days of injury. > > Road deaths thus account for just 3 in every 1000 deaths in the UK. 99..7% > of deaths occur because of other causes. > But they are not killed by other people. > > There is a 1 in 26000 chance of you dying in a road accident in any one > year. > Or about 1 in 266 in a lifetime. > > Whatever you say, Doug, it's pretty small beer. > I disagree. Being killed by other people is very serious stuff indeed, which is usually punished severely unless it happens on a road or pavement. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill. |