How many of you parents would like the driving age raised to 18?
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From: Lookout on 14 Feb 2010 05:13 On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:48:41 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote: >Matt <matttelles(a)sprynet.com> wrote in >news:437fec10-7e76-43a6-a8c7-0edd43a249df(a)w27g2000pre.googlegroups.com: > >> On Feb 13, 3:09�pm, "RD (The Sandman)" >> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote: >>> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers Kill Kids" <xeton2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote >>> innews:X >> ns9D1E772E06965riemann1850yahoocom(a)216.168.3.70: >>> >>> > It's such a huge worry when your kids hit 16 and you remember what >>> > you were �like at that age and how easy it easy for a dumb kid to >>> > drive crazy and kill/cripple himself or someone else and destroy >>> > his whole life. >>> >>> > Hell - 20 would be even better. Teens, esp boys, are wild and don't >>> > think about consequences. >>> >>> Why not wait until 21, then they can legally drink at the same time. >> >> Many years ago, I suggested dropping the drinking age to 12, removing >> the right entirely at the same age as a driver's license. I was >> kidding, of >> course, but sometimes... >> >> Raising ages only makes something more taboo, thus more desireable. >> Let them drink when their parents think they are ready. Let them drive >> when >> they can prove to the state/locality that they are ready. >> >> Matt >> > >There is a point there even though that post was simply a jibe at SADD. > >The legal age of consent or when someone is considered an adult >(emancipated youth excepted) is either 18 or 21. It really needs to be >one or the other. I don't care which one is chosen, however, IMHO, >someone who is old enough to marry, vote and be sent by our president to >die on foreign soil, is certainly old enough to enter a bar and drink a >beer. On this we agree Make it 21 for both.
From: Lookout on 14 Feb 2010 05:14 On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:45:24 -0700, Greg Goss <gossg(a)gossg.org> wrote: >"Speeders & Drunk Drivers Kill Kids" <xeton2001(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>It's such a huge worry when your kids hit 16 and you remember what you were >>like at that age and how easy it easy for a dumb kid to drive crazy and >>kill/cripple himself or someone else and destroy his whole life. >> >>Hell - 20 would be even better. Teens, esp boys, are wild and don't think >>about consequences. > >Where I grew up, the parents had to sign the application for a DL if >the to-be-driver was under 21 (later 19). My parents, looking in >horror at the endless succession of wrecked bikes I produced, told me >that I wouldn't get a license till I could sign for it myself. I >managed to talk them back four months from that so I could drive to a >summer job. > >It seems like a good compromise. If the parents like it, the age is >16. If not, the age is 19. Nah..to many immature and lazy parents. Think about the worst drivers you knew in school...then think about their parents.
From: Lookout on 14 Feb 2010 05:15 On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:33:10 -0700, richard <member(a)newsguy.com> wrote: >On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:42:57 -0600, Speeders & Drunk Drivers Kill Kids >wrote: > >> It's such a huge worry when your kids hit 16 and you remember what you were >> like at that age and how easy it easy for a dumb kid to drive crazy and >> kill/cripple himself or someone else and destroy his whole life. >> >> Hell - 20 would be even better. Teens, esp boys, are wild and don't think >> about consequences. > >Would age make any difference? It's the fact it's your first time. >Kind of like hitting an amusement park for the first time you want to do >everything as fast as you can. Wrong. We were all much more mature at 21 than we were at 16. Or at least most of us were.
From: Matt on 14 Feb 2010 11:09 On Feb 14, 3:13 am, Lookout <mrLook...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:48:41 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)" > > > > > > <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote: > >Matt <matttel...(a)sprynet.com> wrote in > >news:437fec10-7e76-43a6-a8c7-0edd43a249df(a)w27g2000pre.googlegroups.com: > > >> On Feb 13, 3:09 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" > >> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote: > >>> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers Kill Kids" <xeton2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote > >>> innews:X > >> ns9D1E772E06965riemann1850yahoo...(a)216.168.3.70: > > >>> > It's such a huge worry when your kids hit 16 and you remember what > >>> > you were like at that age and how easy it easy for a dumb kid to > >>> > drive crazy and kill/cripple himself or someone else and destroy > >>> > his whole life. > > >>> > Hell - 20 would be even better. Teens, esp boys, are wild and don't > >>> > think about consequences. > > >>> Why not wait until 21, then they can legally drink at the same time. > > >> Many years ago, I suggested dropping the drinking age to 12, removing > >> the right entirely at the same age as a driver's license. I was > >> kidding, of > >> course, but sometimes... > > >> Raising ages only makes something more taboo, thus more desireable. > >> Let them drink when their parents think they are ready. Let them drive > >> when > >> they can prove to the state/locality that they are ready. > > >> Matt > > >There is a point there even though that post was simply a jibe at SADD. > > >The legal age of consent or when someone is considered an adult > >(emancipated youth excepted) is either 18 or 21. It really needs to be > >one or the other. I don't care which one is chosen, however, IMHO, > >someone who is old enough to marry, vote and be sent by our president to > >die on foreign soil, is certainly old enough to enter a bar and drink a > >beer. > > On this we agree > Make it 21 for both. 21 certainly makes sense. But then, why is it you can be drafted at 18, serve your country and so forth? Many kids are working full-time at 18, even some supporting families. Age is an arbitrary choice, and too easy an out. Matt
From: Brent on 14 Feb 2010 16:45
On 2010-02-14, Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:33:10 -0700, richard <member(a)newsguy.com> > wrote: > >>On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:42:57 -0600, Speeders & Drunk Drivers Kill Kids >>wrote: >> >>> It's such a huge worry when your kids hit 16 and you remember what you were >>> like at that age and how easy it easy for a dumb kid to drive crazy and >>> kill/cripple himself or someone else and destroy his whole life. >>> >>> Hell - 20 would be even better. Teens, esp boys, are wild and don't think >>> about consequences. >> >>Would age make any difference? It's the fact it's your first time. >>Kind of like hitting an amusement park for the first time you want to do >>everything as fast as you can. > > Wrong. We were all much more mature at 21 than we were at 16. > Or at least most of us were. So you'll punish those who were mature enough at 16? If we are going to use the slow-ship-in-the-fleet logic, then the driving age would be somewhere around 65 years old, upon which it would be limited because of age related problems. People would be allowed to drive for a few months of their lives. |