How the US won the war
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From: Jordan on 12 Aug 2010 04:33 Noddy wrote: > > > WWII was about the last time they had any real success on that score. Since > then it's been a tale of incredible woe. > A case of: What have you done for me lately? What about bankrolling the vanquished? Saving half of Korea? Setting up NATO? Winning the Cold War? Rock & Roll? Jordan
From: Kev on 12 Aug 2010 04:38 Milton wrote: > > "George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Fdm8o.3297$FH2.1080(a)viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com... > > > >> Menzies had a plan during WW2, of creating a line in the sand and >> giving the land north of Brisbane to the Japs >> called the Brisbane Line. >> >> The Brisbane Line was a controversial defence proposal allegedly >> formulated by the Menzies government during WW2 to concede the >> northern portion of the Australian continent in the event of an >> invasion by the Japanese. > > Yeah, typical Tory of the day, took the "real" labour party (Curtain) to > fix that up, now today's labour gov want to give the whole bloody > country to anyone illegally coming by boat......and pay them for their > trouble....... while genuine Aussie battlers continue to battle just to > survive. > > It will take smarter people than Abbott or Gilliard to fix the mess > we're in. What a pair of wankers, no wonder the rest of the world looks > down on us as a joke. > Ummm a couple of thousand have come by boats Those that do get approval get no more than anyone else on welfare how is that giving over the whole country to them?? A lot people struggling to survive are in that predicament due to their own failings Kev
From: Jason James on 12 Aug 2010 04:53 "Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message news:4c63b12d$0$24908$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > Jason James wrote: >> "Noddy"<me(a)home.com> wrote in message >> news:4c62970c$0$56729$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net... >>> >>> "Clocky"<notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message >>> news:4c627d65$0$11122$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> >>>> That's not true of the war in Europe though. >>> >>> Or Africa. >>> >>>> Dropping atom bombs certainly puts people on notice ;-) >>> >>> It does indeed. Especially the Japanese :) >> >> One continuing critisism of the Japs,..is that they wont admit what they >> did >> to the Chinese in Manchuria before the war,..and wont apologise for what >> they did to POWs during the war,...maybe they think its all square after >> the >> bombs... >> >> Jason >> >> > > > Likewise you don't hear the Poms admitting to what they did to the Boers. > They invented the concentration Camp and thousands of civilians died in > them Sure,..Imperialist England was a pretty arrogant force,...but I dont think the poms ran around beheading all the locals in sight as the Japs did in Manchuria. Jason
From: Kev on 12 Aug 2010 05:07 Jason James wrote: > "Kev"<kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message > news:4c63b12d$0$24908$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... >> Jason James wrote: >>> "Noddy"<me(a)home.com> wrote in message >>> news:4c62970c$0$56729$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net... >>>> >>>> "Clocky"<notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message >>>> news:4c627d65$0$11122$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>> >>>>> That's not true of the war in Europe though. >>>> >>>> Or Africa. >>>> >>>>> Dropping atom bombs certainly puts people on notice ;-) >>>> >>>> It does indeed. Especially the Japanese :) >>> >>> One continuing critisism of the Japs,..is that they wont admit what they >>> did >>> to the Chinese in Manchuria before the war,..and wont apologise for what >>> they did to POWs during the war,...maybe they think its all square after >>> the >>> bombs... >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> >> >> >> Likewise you don't hear the Poms admitting to what they did to the Boers. >> They invented the concentration Camp and thousands of civilians died in >> them > > Sure,..Imperialist England was a pretty arrogant force,...but I dont think > the poms ran around beheading all the locals in sight as the Japs did in > Manchuria. The Japs were a savage breed, but killing women and children by starvation is just as bad, or even worse, beheading is usually quick and painless(at least it should be, but hard to tell since no one has survived having their head removed to tell any different) Kev
From: Noddy on 12 Aug 2010 06:33
"Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message news:4c639d9f$0$11117$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Not true, Fallujah was exposed to the same or more nuclear "fallout" then > Hiroshima through the use of depleted Uranium weapons during operation > Phantom Fury and causing all sorts of health problems with a 4x increase > in all cancers and a 12x increase in childhood cancers since 2004. I think > the Yanks needed a testing ground for their nastiest of weapons on people > and found (manufactured?) an excuse to do it. The use of depleted uranium in "convention weapons" isn't generally considered a nuclear attack. > Yeah, it didn't turn out as bad as expected but ofcourse it was nothing > like a nuclear warhead going off either so it doesn't really prove much. It's exactly like a warhead going off in terms of radioactive damage. Fallout is fallout, whether it comes by way of a massive intentional explosion or an accidental release. The only difference between an atomic weapon and the accident at Chernobyl was that the area around the power plant wasn't flattened by a huge explosive force. > The long term effects may be quite insidious in that they may not show for > quite some time yet, and there is evidence that there were spikes in > certain medical conditions in bordering countries. People may be moving > back, but are they safe in the long term? Well, I'll put it this way: *I* wouldn't be living there :) I don't have any doubt that there will be elevated levels of radiation related illnesses in people living close to the danger zone, but the point is that as bad as it was it wasn't anywhere near the disaster that many predicted it would be. > In that instance, but nuclear meltdowns are not that predictable to say > the next one won't be any worse. It's hard to imagine one that could be worse, and I think the only was one could be was if they weren't able to cap it and it burned indefinitely. Another point worth mentioning is that in some bizarre ways it was actually lucky that it happened in Soviet territory. Not because they were well equipped to deal with such a problem, but because they were ignorant peasants who were happy to throw people into the area to try to fix it. At one stage they had hundreds of men protected by little more than a mask and a lead apron running onto the roof of the power plant with a shovel to push the bits and pieces over the edge onto the ground below where they could be collected by remote controlled tractors. Each man was limited to spending 30 seconds or so in the area as a "safe period of exposure", but almost every single one of them died shortly after from radiation related illnesses. Had such an accident happened in America for example, there is no way American workers would have allowed themselves to be sacrificed in such a way. -- Regards, Noddy. |