From: Jordan on 12 Aug 2010 17:56
>> A case of: What have you done for me lately?
>> What about bankrolling the vanquished? Saving half of Korea? Setting up
>> NATO? Winning the Cold War? Rock & Roll?
> Nothing there of any merit and rock is very questionable
I prefer Jazz anyway.
From: Clocky on 12 Aug 2010 20:42
> Milton wrote:
>> "George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> Menzies had a plan during WW2, of creating a line in the sand and
>>> giving the land north of Brisbane to the Japs
>>> called the Brisbane Line.
>>> The Brisbane Line was a controversial defence proposal allegedly
>>> formulated by the Menzies government during WW2 to concede the
>>> northern portion of the Australian continent in the event of an
>>> invasion by the Japanese.
>> Yeah, typical Tory of the day, took the "real" labour party
>> (Curtain) to fix that up, now today's labour gov want to give the
>> whole bloody country to anyone illegally coming by boat......and pay
>> them for their trouble....... while genuine Aussie battlers continue
>> to battle just to survive.
>> It will take smarter people than Abbott or Gilliard to fix the mess
>> we're in. What a pair of wankers, no wonder the rest of the world
>> looks down on us as a joke.
> Ummm a couple of thousand have come by boats
> Those that do get approval get no more than anyone else on welfare
> how is that giving over the whole country to them??
> A lot people struggling to survive are in that predicament due to
> their own failings
You are right in that it would take 600 years for illegal boat people to
make up 1/10 of our current population which show how out of proportion the
emphasis on boat people is - and likely more about catering to people's
prejudices to obtain their votes then anything else.
As far as the Aussie battler goes, I have a hard time picking between the
"battlers", the bludgers and those unable or unwilling to deal with or
prioritize their finances properly. It's just a romantisized but otherwise
meaningless imagery IMO.
From: Clocky on 13 Aug 2010 00:24
Jason James wrote:
> "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message
>> "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
>>> That's not true of the war in Europe though.
>> Or Africa.
>>> Dropping atom bombs certainly puts people on notice ;-)
>> It does indeed. Especially the Japanese :)
> One continuing critisism of the Japs,..is that they wont admit what
> they did to the Chinese in Manchuria before the war,..and wont
> apologise for what they did to POWs during the war,...maybe they
> think its all square after the bombs...
They don't think about it at all because they're simply not taught that part
of history and they just don't know it happened so there is no pressure from
within to offer an apology.
That's the impression my BOL got when he was teaching over there.
From: Albm&ctd on 13 Aug 2010 00:28
In article <4c61d62a$0$11110$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, notgonn(a)happen.com
> Then the US claimed it won the war, the Jews acted like they were the only
> ones sent to concentration camps, the Soviets decided to overstay their
> welcome in a bunch of eastern block countries and the Poms decided to meddle
> in politics and set up a Jewish state in Palestine because nobody really
> wanted them.
I'm fairly certain, in these troubled times, nobody wants them back either.
I don't take sides.
It's more fun to insult everyone.
From: Clocky on 13 Aug 2010 07:55
> In article <4c61d62a$0$11110$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
> notgonn(a)happen.com says...
>> Then the US claimed it won the war, the Jews acted like they were
>> the only ones sent to concentration camps, the Soviets decided to
>> overstay their welcome in a bunch of eastern block countries and the
>> Poms decided to meddle in politics and set up a Jewish state in
>> Palestine because nobody really wanted them.
> I'm fairly certain, in these troubled times, nobody wants them back
You're not wrong about that.