How the US won the war
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From: George W Frost on 11 Aug 2010 01:26 "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message news:4c622f1d$0$11117$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > st3ph3nm wrote: >> On Aug 11, 8:43 am, "Clocky" <notg...(a)happen.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> I've seen a German one where the loss of the war was blamed (if that >>> is the right word?) on the Russians, those fuckers just didn't give >>> up not to mention that they had no option but to fight or get shot >>> anyway. >>> They paid a very high price, as did the Germans and when the >>> Germans lost it >>> on the Eastern front (Stalingrad, Kursk) I think a lot of the >>> commanders >>> knew this wasn't going to end well for them. >>> Combined with the allies, Germany got put back in it's place as their >>> diminished luftwaffe and the pressure on the western front broke >>> it's back. >> >> The Soviets definitely were the decisive element in WW2. Just look at >> the numbers of casualties. German casualties in WW2 were around 5.3 >> million. Of them, 2.7million died on the Eastern Front. >> >>> >>> Then the US claimed it won the war, the Jews acted like they were >>> the only ones sent to concentration camps, the Soviets decided to >>> overstay their >> >> To be fair, the Jews were the single largest target group. Well more >> than half the death camp victims were Jewish. >> > > Point is the fact that the Holocaust Memorial in Berlin effectively > ignores half the victims. > > The other half who were not jewish
From: atec77 on 11 Aug 2010 02:48 On 11/08/2010 1:35 PM, Jordan wrote: > >> I once commented to an American mate about how poor the news is on >> commercial TV, he said that compared to the US our news service is >> brilliant, according to him over there the news is usually very local >> and many national issues are ignored and international issues get >> almost no mention at all so its little wonder that very many Americans >> have little knowledge of the world outside their immediate area. >> >> Daryl > > Americans are by nature isolationists, I see nothing wrong with that. > When they get dragged, kicking and screaming into other peoples' messes > they often do a very good job of sorting it out indeed. Hadn't you noticed? > > Jordan If by good you mean sending the youth of a generation to an end they don't deserver directed by impotent old men -- X-No-Archive: Yes
From: D Walford on 11 Aug 2010 03:13 On 11/08/2010 1:35 PM, Jordan wrote: > >> I once commented to an American mate about how poor the news is on >> commercial TV, he said that compared to the US our news service is >> brilliant, according to him over there the news is usually very local >> and many national issues are ignored and international issues get >> almost no mention at all so its little wonder that very many Americans >> have little knowledge of the world outside their immediate area. >> >> Daryl > > Americans are by nature isolationists, I see nothing wrong with that. Me either but the problem is most Americans are ignorant of the fact that they are isolationists:-) > When they get dragged, kicking and screaming into other peoples' messes > they often do a very good job of sorting it out indeed. Hadn't you noticed? Their recent success's seem to be few and far between:-) Daryl
From: Jordan on 11 Aug 2010 04:24 Fraser Johnston wrote: > >> Americans are by nature isolationists, I see nothing wrong with that. >> When they get dragged, kicking and screaming into other peoples' messes they >> often do a very good job of sorting it out indeed. Hadn't you noticed? > > Dragged!!!?!??! Lol. American sees itself as the worlds policeman. Except in > Rwanda where they could of stopped a massacre. > > Fraser > I'm thinking of Pearl Harbour 1941, and the Lusitania sinking in 1915 (which killed many Americans). Before those the USA seemed happy to stay out of it. Maybe, after recently having its nose bloodied so badly in Somalia, they were less than keen to get involved in Rwanda? By the way, Rwanda is a French-speaking country - who do you feel is more responsible for that disaster? Why no Euro intervention? Or UN? Jordan
From: Jordan on 11 Aug 2010 04:26
atec77 wrote: > > If by good you mean sending the youth of a generation to an end they > don't deserver directed by impotent old men > What would you have done? Jordan |