How the US won the war
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From: D Walford on 11 Aug 2010 09:22 On 11/08/2010 10:24 PM, Noddy wrote: > "George W Frost"<georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Oqw8o.3354$FH2.3071(a)viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com... > >> WW1 and WW2, were both "declared wars" >> as in countries facing off to each other >> whereas, in later years, the Yanks have got them selves involved in >> guerilla warfare and have been beaten >> and everyone knows that you can never win a guerilla war with regular >> troops or should do >> If anyone believes anything else, they have got fairies in the bottom of >> their garden >> A guerilla war must be and can only be fought by the same means and that >> is with the same type guerilla warfare > > I disagree. > > Both the Korean and Vietnam wars could have been won in *very* short order > if the US government approached them from the military perspective rather > than a political one. They could have dished out the same treatment to North > Korea and Vietnam as they did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki and made an > "artificial sun" over a couple of major cities and it wouldn't have taken > the locals too long to realise that the yanks weren't pissing about and > planned to use all their tools to get the job done. > > Instead they worried about what the neighbours might think, and that's what > fucked them. > Exactly, politics stops them winning any wars these days, if they had the political will it could be all over within a couple of hours. If they aren't willing to use their full arsenal everyone would be better off it they stayed home. Daryl
From: Kev on 11 Aug 2010 13:08 D Walford wrote: > On 11/08/2010 10:24 PM, Noddy wrote: >> "George W Frost"<georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:Oqw8o.3354$FH2.3071(a)viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com... >> >>> WW1 and WW2, were both "declared wars" >>> as in countries facing off to each other >>> whereas, in later years, the Yanks have got them selves involved in >>> guerilla warfare and have been beaten >>> and everyone knows that you can never win a guerilla war with regular >>> troops or should do >>> If anyone believes anything else, they have got fairies in the bottom of >>> their garden >>> A guerilla war must be and can only be fought by the same means and that >>> is with the same type guerilla warfare >> >> I disagree. >> >> Both the Korean and Vietnam wars could have been won in *very* short >> order >> if the US government approached them from the military perspective rather >> than a political one. They could have dished out the same treatment to >> North >> Korea and Vietnam as they did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki and made an >> "artificial sun" over a couple of major cities and it wouldn't have taken >> the locals too long to realise that the yanks weren't pissing about and >> planned to use all their tools to get the job done. >> >> Instead they worried about what the neighbours might think, and that's >> what >> fucked them. >> > > Exactly, politics stops them winning any wars these days, if they had > the political will it could be all over within a couple of hours. > If they aren't willing to use their full arsenal everyone would be > better off it they stayed home. Getting involved in a war with China would have also meant a war with Russia and a nuclear war Kev
From: Milton on 11 Aug 2010 15:58 "George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:Fdm8o.3297$FH2.1080(a)viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com... > Menzies had a plan during WW2, of creating a line in the sand and giving > the land north of Brisbane to the Japs > called the Brisbane Line. > > The Brisbane Line was a controversial defence proposal allegedly > formulated by the Menzies government during WW2 to concede the northern > portion of the Australian continent in the event of an invasion by the > Japanese. Yeah, typical Tory of the day, took the "real" labour party (Curtain) to fix that up, now today's labour gov want to give the whole bloody country to anyone illegally coming by boat......and pay them for their trouble....... while genuine Aussie battlers continue to battle just to survive. It will take smarter people than Abbott or Gilliard to fix the mess we're in. What a pair of wankers, no wonder the rest of the world looks down on us as a joke. Regards Milton
From: Milton on 11 Aug 2010 16:19 "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message news:4c62986d$0$56729$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net... > > "George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Oqw8o.3354$FH2.3071(a)viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com... > >> WW1 and WW2, were both "declared wars" >> as in countries facing off to each other >> whereas, in later years, the Yanks have got them selves involved in >> guerilla warfare and have been beaten >> and everyone knows that you can never win a guerilla war with regular >> troops or should do >> If anyone believes anything else, they have got fairies in the bottom of >> their garden >> A guerilla war must be and can only be fought by the same means and that >> is with the same type guerilla warfare > > I disagree. > > Both the Korean and Vietnam wars could have been won in *very* short order > if the US government approached them from the military perspective rather > than a political one. They could have dished out the same treatment to > North Korea and Vietnam as they did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki and made an > "artificial sun" over a couple of major cities and it wouldn't have taken > the locals too long to realise that the yanks weren't pissing about and > planned to use all their tools to get the job done. > > Instead they worried about what the neighbours might think, and that's > what fucked them. LOL. As well they might. You and I are of similar vintage. Did you get conscripted to go? I would say no otherwise you wouldn't have said that. The problem with the Vietnam war as opposed to WW1 & 2 was you didn't know who your enemy were because the north and south all looked alike. Unlike the Japs and Germans who were proud to march into battle wearing their uniforms, these little fuckers (called Charlies) could be your friend in the daytime and then shooting you at night. Even the bloody sluts would insert razor blades into their fannies to cut the penises off the yanks. Ever wondered why that doesn't get discussed? The nuclear way wouldn't have happened back then because the Americans weren't the only ones with those capabilities, unlike WW2. Terrorism is the new war today and no one knows how to fight it. Regards Milton
From: Clocky on 11 Aug 2010 17:53
George W Frost wrote: > "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message > news:4c6280c2$0$56729$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net... >> >> "George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:MWq8o.3314$FH2.1239(a)viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com... >> >>> In 1942, there were 707,000 jews living in Germany >>> >>> Where did the other 5,300,000 come from? >> >> The rest of German occupied Europe. >> >> Wherever the Germans took control, the Jews were systematically >> rounded up and shipped off. Some to labour camps and some straight >> to the gas chambers, but most of them ended up dead either way. As >> did a great many gypsies, prisoners of war, intellectuals, >> physically & mentally disabled, and innocent bystanders who just >> happened to live where the Nazi's were driving through. >> >>> And given the first answer of 6 billion, there are only 7 billion >>> people alive in the world today >> >> I would think the 6 billion is a typo and meant to be 6 million, >> which has been the often quoted number virtually since the war >> ended. What the exact number is will never be known, but *nillions* >> of people died at the hands of the Nazi's in the name of racial >> purification. Of that there can be no doubt. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Noddy. >> >> > > I do not doubt that one bit > > Racial vilification from a person who's father supposedly had a Jewish > father There is no evidence of that, but what is known is interesting enough... he was effectively an inbred. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_Frankenberger#Alois_Hitler.27s_biological_father |