From: Noddy on

"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> True so they should have just stayed home.

Either that, or just wiped Russia and Vietnam off the map for good :)

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Regards,
Noddy.


From: Jason James on

"Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message
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> "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
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>> That's not true of the war in Europe though.
>
> Or Africa.
>
>> Dropping atom bombs certainly puts people on notice ;-)
>
> It does indeed. Especially the Japanese :)

One continuing critisism of the Japs,..is that they wont admit what they did
to the Chinese in Manchuria before the war,..and wont apologise for what
they did to POWs during the war,...maybe they think its all square after the
bombs...

Jason


From: Clocky on

"Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message
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> "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
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>> Why don't the Jews nuke Lebanon then?
>
> I'm sure they'd *like* to, but you'd have to ask them as to exactly why
> they don't. My guess is that doing so would eliminate any friendship they
> have with anyone else in the world.
>
>> Adjoining neighbours are not going to be happy about it and with good
>> reason.
>
> I never said no one wouldn't get their hair mucked up :)
>
>> Worst case is better then being blase about it, and other countries did
>> suffer from the effects both long and short term but comparing Chernobyl
>> to an nuclear warhead is like comparing apples to oranges in relation to
>> how and what was released and over what period of time.
>
> Compared to what was released over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which to this
> day remain the only two cities ever to be subjected to a nuclear attack,

Not true, Fallujah was exposed to the same or more nuclear "fallout" then
Hiroshima through the use of depleted Uranium weapons during operation
Phantom Fury and causing all sorts of health problems with a 4x increase in
all cancers and a 12x increase in childhood cancers since 2004. I think the
Yanks needed a testing ground for their nastiest of weapons on people and
found (manufactured?) an excuse to do it.

> Chernobyl was *massive* in terms of nuclear fallout. The Japanese cities
> suffered much more devastation from the explosive effects of the bombs
> themselves, but compared to the radiation release at Chernobyl their after
> effects were pretty minor.
>
>> Not within 30 km of the site.
>
> People aren't living right next door to what remains of the power station,
> no, but the point being that within hours of the explosion and radioactive
> cloud that was released the doomsayers were predicting that an area the
> size of Western Australia would be a nuclear wasteland for thousands of
> years afterwards and that very clearly *isn't* the case today.

Yeah, it didn't turn out as bad as expected but ofcourse it was nothing like
a nuclear warhead going off either so it doesn't really prove much. The long
term effects may be quite insidious in that they may not show for quite some
time yet, and there is evidence that there were spikes in certain medical
conditions in bordering countries. People may be moving back, but are they
safe in the long term?

> The facts are that as horrible an accident as the Chernobyl explosion was,
> and it's hard to imagine one that could be worse, it showed that the
> problems associated with an accidental nuclear release weren't as bad as
> what some people like to think.
>

In that instance, but nuclear meltdowns are not that predictable to say the
next one won't be any worse.


From: Kev on
Jason James wrote:
> "Noddy"<me(a)home.com> wrote in message
> news:4c62970c$0$56729$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net...
>>
>> "Clocky"<notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
>> news:4c627d65$0$11122$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>>
>>> That's not true of the war in Europe though.
>>
>> Or Africa.
>>
>>> Dropping atom bombs certainly puts people on notice ;-)
>>
>> It does indeed. Especially the Japanese :)
>
> One continuing critisism of the Japs,..is that they wont admit what they did
> to the Chinese in Manchuria before the war,..and wont apologise for what
> they did to POWs during the war,...maybe they think its all square after the
> bombs...
>
> Jason
>
>


Likewise you don't hear the Poms admitting to what they did to the
Boers. They invented the concentration Camp and thousands of civilians
died in them


Kev
From: Kev on
Kev wrote:
> Jason James wrote:
>> "Noddy"<me(a)home.com> wrote in message
>> news:4c62970c$0$56729$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net...
>>>
>>> "Clocky"<notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4c627d65$0$11122$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>>>
>>>> That's not true of the war in Europe though.
>>>
>>> Or Africa.
>>>
>>>> Dropping atom bombs certainly puts people on notice ;-)
>>>
>>> It does indeed. Especially the Japanese :)
>>
>> One continuing critisism of the Japs,..is that they wont admit what
>> they did
>> to the Chinese in Manchuria before the war,..and wont apologise for what
>> they did to POWs during the war,...maybe they think its all square
>> after the
>> bombs...
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>
>
> Likewise you don't hear the Poms admitting to what they did to the
> Boers. They invented the concentration Camp and thousands of civilians
> died in them

I should add that most probably don't even know since it was over 100
years ago