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From: Mrcheerful on 18 Jul 2010 10:37 "steve robinson" <steve(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> wrote in message news:xn0gws8gkbexb8001(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Jo wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I'm quite shaken as I had a brush with the grim reaper today :( >> >> Coming off a roundabout, I was driving along an A-road immediately >> behind a horse carriage doing 20 mph in a 60 mph road. I was about >> 150 yards past the roundabout and a queue of cars had built up >> behind me. >> >> I felt pressured into overtaking the horse carriage. It was too slow >> for 3rd gear and I was in 2nd gear. The horse carriage seemed to >> speed up as I was overtaking them (but can't be sure). I sped up to >> about 30mph and was now astride the rear wheels of the vehicle. I >> fumbled the 2-3rd gear change (seemed stuck and cost me a few >> seconds to try again) and oncoming traffic lead by a truck was now >> too close. There was enough space if I didn't fumble the 2-3rd gear >> change and didn't expect my spot behind the horse trailer to be >> closed up so quickly >> >> So having no choice I floored the accelerator to 60mph on 3rd gear. >> The oncoming traffic went to the left of their lane to make way for >> me and three vehicles were astride at one point. >> >> If you were in that situation what would you have done? I couldn't >> have gone back and it seems the only way was to get past and in >> front of the horse trailer. >> >> Thanks for any advice. Please don't flame me I'm a new driver and my >> confidence has been badly shaken today already :( >> >> Jo > > I cant see a horse carriage speeding up that much , you should have > started your acceleration move earlier and been in the correct gear > before you decided to make the manoeuvre > > Starting the manoeuvre earlier would have avoided hard , high revving > acceleration which is not sensible when passing anything on four legs > I took the meaning as being a horse box either lorry or trailer.
From: Farmer Giles on 18 Jul 2010 10:43 "Phil L" <neverchecked(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OfE0o.205120$vB5.85452(a)hurricane... > Jo wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I'm quite shaken as I had a brush with the grim reaper today :( >> >> Coming off a roundabout, I was driving along an A-road immediately >> behind a horse carriage doing 20 mph in a 60 mph road. I was about 150 >> yards past the roundabout and a queue of cars had built up behind me. >> >> I felt pressured into overtaking the horse carriage. It was too slow >> for 3rd gear and I was in 2nd gear. The horse carriage seemed to speed >> up as I was overtaking them (but can't be sure). I sped up to about >> 30mph and was now astride the rear wheels of the vehicle. I fumbled >> the 2-3rd gear change (seemed stuck and cost me a few seconds to try >> again) and oncoming traffic lead by a truck was now too close. There >> was enough space if I didn't fumble the 2-3rd gear change and didn't >> expect my spot behind the horse trailer to be closed up so quickly >> >> So having no choice I floored the accelerator to 60mph on 3rd gear. >> The oncoming traffic went to the left of their lane to make way for me >> and three vehicles were astride at one point. >> >> If you were in that situation what would you have done? I couldn't >> have gone back and it seems the only way was to get past and in front >> of the horse trailer. >> >> Thanks for any advice. Please don't flame me I'm a new driver and my >> confidence has been badly shaken today already :( >> >> Jo > > Coupled with your non existant grasp of basic car maintenance, don't you > think it's time you got rid of the car until you've managed to grow a > brain? - I'm being serious, you ae either going to kill yourself or > someone else in the not-too-distant future unless you start using public > transport. Further evidence that usenet is largely populated by the obnoxious, and the inadequate.
From: Steve Firth on 18 Jul 2010 10:54 Ian <idh(a)henden.co.uk> wrote: > Why *twice*? because anything coming intop sight from > the opposite direction, is likely to be travelling at much the same > speed as you are, so the gap is getting smaller twice as quickly as > you thought. On an "A" road (presumably NSL) oncoming traffic in this case would be going three times faster than the overtaking vehicle leading to a very narrow overtaking opportunity. Even more care needed than usual.
From: Brimstone on 18 Jul 2010 11:18 "Phil L" <neverchecked(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OfE0o.205120$vB5.85452(a)hurricane... > Jo wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I'm quite shaken as I had a brush with the grim reaper today :( >> >> Coming off a roundabout, I was driving along an A-road immediately >> behind a horse carriage doing 20 mph in a 60 mph road. I was about 150 >> yards past the roundabout and a queue of cars had built up behind me. >> >> I felt pressured into overtaking the horse carriage. It was too slow >> for 3rd gear and I was in 2nd gear. The horse carriage seemed to speed >> up as I was overtaking them (but can't be sure). I sped up to about >> 30mph and was now astride the rear wheels of the vehicle. I fumbled >> the 2-3rd gear change (seemed stuck and cost me a few seconds to try >> again) and oncoming traffic lead by a truck was now too close. There >> was enough space if I didn't fumble the 2-3rd gear change and didn't >> expect my spot behind the horse trailer to be closed up so quickly >> >> So having no choice I floored the accelerator to 60mph on 3rd gear. >> The oncoming traffic went to the left of their lane to make way for me >> and three vehicles were astride at one point. >> >> If you were in that situation what would you have done? I couldn't >> have gone back and it seems the only way was to get past and in front >> of the horse trailer. >> >> Thanks for any advice. Please don't flame me I'm a new driver and my >> confidence has been badly shaken today already :( >> >> Jo > > Coupled with your non existant grasp of basic car maintenance, don't you > think it's time you got rid of the car until you've managed to grow a > brain? - I'm being serious, you ae either going to kill yourself or > someone else in the not-too-distant future unless you start using public > transport. > If he stops driving until he's learnt, how is he going to learn?
From: steve robinson on 18 Jul 2010 11:19
Mrcheerful wrote: > > "steve robinson" <steve(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> wrote in message > news:xn0gws8gkbexb8001(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > Jo wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I'm quite shaken as I had a brush with the grim reaper today :( > > > > > > Coming off a roundabout, I was driving along an A-road > > > immediately behind a horse carriage doing 20 mph in a 60 mph > > > road. I was about 150 yards past the roundabout and a queue of > > > cars had built up behind me. > > > > > > I felt pressured into overtaking the horse carriage. It was too > > > slow for 3rd gear and I was in 2nd gear. The horse carriage > > > seemed to speed up as I was overtaking them (but can't be > > > sure). I sped up to about 30mph and was now astride the rear > > > wheels of the vehicle. I fumbled the 2-3rd gear change (seemed > > > stuck and cost me a few seconds to try again) and oncoming > > > traffic lead by a truck was now too close. There was enough > > > space if I didn't fumble the 2-3rd gear change and didn't > > > expect my spot behind the horse trailer to be closed up so > > > quickly > > > > > > So having no choice I floored the accelerator to 60mph on 3rd > > > gear. The oncoming traffic went to the left of their lane to > > > make way for me and three vehicles were astride at one point. > > > > > > If you were in that situation what would you have done? I > > > couldn't have gone back and it seems the only way was to get > > > past and in front of the horse trailer. > > > > > > Thanks for any advice. Please don't flame me I'm a new driver > > > and my confidence has been badly shaken today already :( > > > > > > Jo > > > > I cant see a horse carriage speeding up that much , you should > > have started your acceleration move earlier and been in the > > correct gear before you decided to make the manoeuvre > > > > Starting the manoeuvre earlier would have avoided hard , high > > revving acceleration which is not sensible when passing anything > > on four legs > > > > I took the meaning as being a horse box either lorry or trailer. No she clearly said carriage |