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From: Steve Firth on 21 Jul 2010 02:44 Alex Heney <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote: > So you drive defensively. Which does NOT mean not letting anybody know > what you are going to do. Go and get some driving lessons. You need them.
From: Ste on 21 Jul 2010 11:56 On 21 July, 07:44, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > Matthew Russotto <russo...(a)grace.speakeasy.net> wrote: > > ROTFL. In most modern front wheel drive cars, a full throttle pass > > on a dry road starting from 20mph is a non-event. No slithering, > > running wide, or anything like that. > > Most drivers don't use full throttle even when they think they are. > Which is probably fortunate. There are still plenty of "modern front > wheel drive" cars that will be a handful if you bury the pedal in the > carpet. One that springs to mind is the Dodge Calibre. I had the > misfortune to have one of thee as a hire car. If you use full throtle > you will find that the torque steer makes the car difficult to control. > Not impossible but I suspect that it will catch many drivers out. > > Fortunately most FWD cars are gutless heaps so you will get away with > it. I've driven FWD cars up to 2 litre, which can hardly be called heaps by any standard, and none of them were difficult to control under full throttle. I've been far more worried by a 4 litre RWD under full throttle round a modest curve.
From: Alex Heney on 21 Jul 2010 16:53 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 01:13:39 GMT, russotto(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) wrote: >In article <1jlulkj.1vqmnj5incsbkN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, >Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >>Alex Heney <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> But that is not what most cars are, and it is most certainly NOT true >>> of any modern front wheel drive car. >> >>No, they would slither all over the road, run wide and then kill you. >>Unless you lifeted off then they would go backwards off the road and >>kill you, probably. > >ROTFL. In most modern front wheel drive cars, a full throttle pass >on a dry road starting from 20mph is a non-event. No slithering, >running wide, or anything like that. > It is quite obvious from his posts that Steve has never driven one of those. He is either senile, or too young to be able to get a driving licence yet. >On a powerful rear-wheel drive solid axle open diff car, you've got >another story, but there are few enough of those left. Exactly. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager The man who begins many things finishes few. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom
From: Alex Heney on 21 Jul 2010 16:56 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:56:26 -0700 (PDT), Ste <ste_rose0(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >On 21 July, 07:44, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: >> Matthew Russotto <russo...(a)grace.speakeasy.net> wrote: >> > ROTFL. �In most modern front wheel drive cars, a full throttle pass >> > on a dry road starting from 20mph is a non-event. �No slithering, >> > running wide, or anything like that. >> >> Most drivers don't use full throttle even when they think they are. >> Which is probably fortunate. There are still plenty of "modern front >> wheel drive" cars that will be a handful if you bury the pedal in the >> carpet. One that springs to mind is the Dodge Calibre. I had the >> misfortune to have one of thee as a hire car. If you use full throtle >> you will find that the torque steer makes the car difficult to control. >> Not impossible but I suspect that it will catch many drivers out. >> >> Fortunately most FWD cars are gutless heaps so you will get away with >> it. > >I've driven FWD cars up to 2 litre, which can hardly be called heaps >by any standard, and none of them were difficult to control under full >throttle. I've been far more worried by a 4 litre RWD under full >throttle round a modest curve. Many FWD drive cars would be a serious handful if you used full throttle on much of a bend. But that wasn't what we were talking of, since we were talking about using it when overtaking (and while not specified, probably not during the actual "pulling out" moment). -- Alex Heney, Global Villager If wishes were horses, dogfood would be a lot cheaper. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom
From: Alex Heney on 21 Jul 2010 16:57
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:59:34 -0400, Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote: >On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:01:47 +0100, Alex Heney <me8(a)privacy.net> >wrote: >> >>If you have a very powerful car, then you can be sure nobody *can* do >>that to you. >> >>I don't,. I have a normal family estate car. > >Who's fault is that? Why would it be a "fault"? -- Alex Heney, Global Villager If wishes were horses, dogfood would be a lot cheaper. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom |