From: Dave Head on 21 Jul 2010 18:27 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:57:33 +0100, Alex Heney <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote: >On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:59:34 -0400, Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> >wrote: > >>On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:01:47 +0100, Alex Heney <me8(a)privacy.net> >>wrote: >>> >>>If you have a very powerful car, then you can be sure nobody *can* do >>>that to you. >>> >>>I don't,. I have a normal family estate car. >> >>Who's fault is that? > >Why would it be a "fault"? 'Cuz its a slug that will get you in trouble when you need perforamance unexpectedly.
From: Matthew Russotto on 21 Jul 2010 22:07 In article <d847768f-e2a0-43a0-b86c-7c7ed1ae2ec3(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, gpsman <gpsman(a)driversmail.com> wrote: > > >On Jul 20, 11:39=A0pm, russo...(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) >wrote: >> In article <4355dc71-8f52-43f7-bbc0-4d7c0aeb5...(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.= >com>, >> >> >> >> >> >> gpsman =A0<gps...(a)driversmail.com> wrote: >> >> >On Jul 20, 9:18=3DA0pm, russo...(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) >> >wrote: >> >> In article <gc01o.174440$9c1.83361(a)hurricane>, >> >> >> Justin Credible <matt.fin...(a)btopenworld.com> wrote: >> >> >> >"steve robinson" <st...(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> wrote in message >> >> >news:xn0gws8hxbgtqb002(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> >> >> Better to be 5 minutes late in this world than 40 years early in th= >e >> >> >> next >> >> >> >Or as US pilots put it; "better off late and anonymous than the lead = >sto=3D >> >ry >> >> >on Fox News at 9". >> >> >> I'll take the risk. >> >> >That would be fine, if you could. =A0Unfortunately, risky maneuvers are >> >a risk to others. >> >> Everything's a risk to others. > >Watch out then, I'm posting this to Usenet, then I'm going to bed. > >> >> Those latenesses here and there add up. >> >> >Leave earlier. >> >> The time adds up whether I cut an earlier activity short to cover the >> longer drive time, or whether I'm late to the later activity. > >If a minor delay makes you late, you need to better schedule. Adding slack time adds up too. -- The problem with socialism is there's always someone with less ability and more need.
From: gpsman on 22 Jul 2010 06:45 On Jul 21, 10:07 pm, russo...(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) wrote: > In article <d847768f-e2a0-43a0-b86c-7c7ed1ae2...(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups..com>, > > > > > > gpsman <gps...(a)driversmail.com> wrote: > > >On Jul 20, 11:39=A0pm, russo...(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) > >wrote: > >> In article <4355dc71-8f52-43f7-bbc0-4d7c0aeb5...(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.= > >com>, > > >> gpsman =A0<gps...(a)driversmail.com> wrote: > > >> >On Jul 20, 9:18=3DA0pm, russo...(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) > >> >wrote: > >> >> In article <gc01o.174440$9c1.83361(a)hurricane>, > > >> >> Justin Credible <matt.fin...(a)btopenworld.com> wrote: > > >> >> >"steve robinson" <st...(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> wrote in message > >> >> >news:xn0gws8hxbgtqb002(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > >> >> >> Better to be 5 minutes late in this world than 40 years early in th= > >e > >> >> >> next > > >> >> >Or as US pilots put it; "better off late and anonymous than the lead = > >sto=3D > >> >ry > >> >> >on Fox News at 9". > > >> >> I'll take the risk. > > >> >That would be fine, if you could. =A0Unfortunately, risky maneuvers are > >> >a risk to others. > > >> Everything's a risk to others. > > >Watch out then, I'm posting this to Usenet, then I'm going to bed. > > >> >> Those latenesses here and there add up. > > >> >Leave earlier. > > >> The time adds up whether I cut an earlier activity short to cover the > >> longer drive time, or whether I'm late to the later activity. > > >If a minor delay makes you late, you need to better schedule. > > Adding slack time adds up too. Then you're not really interested in ensuring you're on-time. ----- - gpsman
From: Farmer Giles on 22 Jul 2010 12:51 "Justin Credible" <matt.finish(a)btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:vs01o.437011$_m6.430418(a)hurricane... > > > "Farmer Giles" <Giles(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > news:et-dncTnu-DbkN7RnZ2dnUVZ8tKdnZ2d(a)brightview.com... >> >> >> Hello Jo >> >> I've been driving for 47 years, and I think in that time I mght have made >> the occasional mistake! We have all done similar things, to what you >> describe, on occasions. In the circumstances that you found yourself you >> did ok - although, perhaps, it might have been better if you had >> exercised a bit more patience and not tried to overtake when you did. New >> drivers almost invariably feel pressured by other drivers. The important >> thing to (always) remember is that safety is paramount, so ignore other >> drivers - who are often aggressive and self-righteous (and wrong!). When >> I was teaching my daughter to drive, I remember that she was always >> overly concerned about what other drivers were thinking - was she driving >> too slowly, taking too much time at road junctions, etc, etc - I always >> told her to ignore other drivers, and simply do what she thought was >> best - and what was safe. I give the same advice to you. > > But where do you draw the line? > > I have been driving since 1981 (not as long as you) but for 16 years of > that I was driving 65,000 miles a year. > > In short, I've driven more miles than most motorists will ever rack up in > a lifetime. And all of that without a single conviction or accident. > > So I reckon I'm qualified to comment. You certainly are. > > An example of "where do you draw the line?": my wife and I, having > enjoyed a very enjoyable "two courses for �7.95" lunch at Chiquitos, left > the area and came upto a roundabout in the outside lane, intending to turn > right. It's a very busy roundabout on a Saturday (it also serves the local > Mall) and we pulled up behind a young lad in a Clio displaying a green P > plate. > > So I knew he was a novice and left the appropriate gap in case he rolled > backwards. > > So we sat and waited. And waited. And waited. And watched as at least > three clear opportunities for him to pull out were disregarded. > > I used the room I'd left between his car and mine to flip through on the > inside and within 3 seconds I was away. > > Alas, an unmarked police vehicle witnessed the manoeuvre and pulled me. > Made me sit in his car, did a PNC check, checked the vehicle's insurance > status and said "what you did was perfectly safe but you were in the wrong > lane, don't do that again". I explained why I'd done it which, initially, > fell on deaf ears. > > The kicker? I glanced back at the roundabout and the novice driver was > **still** sat there waiting to emerge...........accompanied by a whole > queue of cars. I pointed to the novice and said to the cop who'd pulled > me "he's still there, you might want to go and give him a hand" to which > the response was "mmmm, I'm sure they give driving licences away with > Cornflake packets". > > He bid me farewell and I went on my way. He'd made his point and I'd made > mine. Clearly, his waiting was excessive - but he was a nervous novice. Were you in a particular hurry? Better that he errs on the side of caution, rather than take a risk. The usual tendency is for novices to rush when in doubt - I prefer this lad's method!
From: Farmer Giles on 22 Jul 2010 12:58
"Jo" <joanna.hamilton90(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:7b001aa0-504d-4da4-bcd3-818ed8006c07(a)l14g2000yql.googlegroups.com... > > > Farmer Giles wrote: >> "Jo" <joanna.hamilton90(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:cc357b2e-5fa8-446f-b65b-8c46eb71b8da(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... >> > Hello all, >> > >> > I'm quite shaken as I had a brush with the grim reaper today :( >> > >> > Coming off a roundabout, I was driving along an A-road immediately >> > behind a horse carriage doing 20 mph in a 60 mph road. I was about 150 >> > yards past the roundabout and a queue of cars had built up behind me. >> > >> > I felt pressured into overtaking the horse carriage. It was too slow >> > for 3rd gear and I was in 2nd gear. The horse carriage seemed to speed >> > up as I was overtaking them (but can't be sure). I sped up to about >> > 30mph and was now astride the rear wheels of the vehicle. I fumbled >> > the 2-3rd gear change (seemed stuck and cost me a few seconds to try >> > again) and oncoming traffic lead by a truck was now too close. There >> > was enough space if I didn't fumble the 2-3rd gear change and didn't >> > expect my spot behind the horse trailer to be closed up so quickly >> > >> > So having no choice I floored the accelerator to 60mph on 3rd gear. >> > The oncoming traffic went to the left of their lane to make way for me >> > and three vehicles were astride at one point. >> > >> > If you were in that situation what would you have done? I couldn't >> > have gone back and it seems the only way was to get past and in front >> > of the horse trailer. >> > >> > Thanks for any advice. Please don't flame me I'm a new driver and my >> > confidence has been badly shaken today already :( >> > >> > Jo >> >> Hello Jo >> >> I've been driving for 47 years, and I think in that time I mght have made >> the occasional mistake! We have all done similar things, to what you >> describe, on occasions. In the circumstances that you found yourself you >> did >> ok - although, perhaps, it might have been better if you had exercised a >> bit >> more patience and not tried to overtake when you did. New drivers almost >> invariably feel pressured by other drivers. The important thing to >> (always) >> remember is that safety is paramount, so ignore other drivers - who are >> often aggressive and self-righteous (and wrong!). When I was teaching my >> daughter to drive, I remember that she was always overly concerned about >> what other drivers were thinking - was she driving too slowly, taking too >> much time at road junctions, etc, etc - I always told her to ignore other >> drivers, and simply do what she thought was best - and what was safe. I >> give >> the same advice to you. > > Thanks Farmer Giles. Your post made me feel much better :) > > Jo You're very welcome. I appreciate your thanks, but I'd be much more appreciative if you always try to kep my advice in mind. |