From: Doug on
On 2 Mar, 07:16, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> > On 2 Mar, 07:01, Theodore <theodored...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:35:11 -0800 (PST), Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> It happens all over the world and seems to be tolerated by police
> >>> despite the deliberate intent. Is there an unspoken special
> >>> dispensation for drivers against cyclists?
> >>> "...Friday evening, they corked the intersection of Peachtree St. and
> >>> Eighth. One motorist strongly took exception.
> >>> "You can't go through a red light if you're a vehicle," the motorist
> >>> is heard saying on a YouTube video.
> >>> The video, shot by cyclist Matt Todd, shows the driver threatening to
> >>> strike a bicyclist with his car.
> >>> "If you don't move, I'll run you over," he said just a few seconds
> >>> before putting the car in gear, lightly striking a bicyclist..."
> >>> More with videos:
> >>>http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=141270&catid=3
> >> LOL! Well done that driver.
>
> > So you think that its OK for motorists to deliberately ram cyclists to
> > make them move out of the way and this should be allowed in law? Would
> > you say you are a typical motorist?
>
>
> So you think it's ok for cyclists to break the law & cycle dangerously.
> Would you say you are a typical cyclist?
>
The cyclists were stationary at the time and therefore not cycling
dangerously. Obviously I am not a typical cyclist. Are you a typical
motorist who is in favour of deliberately ramming cyclists, as you
appear to be?

--
Critical Mass London
http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"

From: Doug on
On 2 Mar, 07:12, Marie <marie.law...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mar 2, 6:35 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It happens all over the world and seems to be tolerated by police
> > despite the deliberate intent. Is there an unspoken special
> > dispensation for drivers against cyclists?
>
> > "...Friday evening, they corked the intersection of Peachtree St. and
> > Eighth. One motorist strongly took exception.
> > "You can't go through a red light if you're a vehicle," the motorist
> > is heard saying on a YouTube video.
>
> > The video, shot by cyclist Matt Todd, shows the driver threatening to
> > strike a bicyclist with his car.
>
> > "If you don't move, I'll run you over," he said just a few seconds
> > before putting the car in gear, lightly striking a bicyclist..."
>
> > More with videos:http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=141270&catid=3
>
> > --
> > Critical Mass Londonhttp://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
> > "Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"
>
> Translation :-
> A group of cyclist riding their bikes in a dangerous & illegal manner,
> with no regard to other traffic havee the cheek to complain about
> another road user.
>
Translation :-
Motorist responds with a physical threat and is alleged to have used
his car as a weapon to strike a bicycle and its rider.
>
> The video then end with "Three minutes is not a lot to ask", well if
> three minutes is not a lot to ask, why didn't the cyclist wait at he
> red lights
>
For reasons which have been discussed many times before, it would
fragment the ride, aka procession, and cause even more hold-ups.
>
> But we know the answer to that dson't we, 'it's for the safety of the
> cyclists that we cycle together'
> The poor little dears are scared to be out on their own, because they
> don't feel safe.
> Well they wont be safe if they cycle like that.
> Did you notice how they all gathered roun the motorist to bully him,
> perhaps he did not feel safe.
>
You seem surprised that some cyclists are too scared to cycle on their
own. Aren't you aware how drivers are permitted to make our roads
very dangerous for vulnerable road users?

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.

From: Marie on
On Mar 2, 7:44 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> On 2 Mar, 07:12, Marie <marie.law...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 2, 6:35 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>
> > > It happens all over the world and seems to be tolerated by police
> > > despite the deliberate intent. Is there an unspoken special
> > > dispensation for drivers against cyclists?
>
> > > "...Friday evening, they corked the intersection of Peachtree St. and
> > > Eighth. One motorist strongly took exception.
> > > "You can't go through a red light if you're a vehicle," the motorist
> > > is heard saying on a YouTube video.
>
> > > The video, shot by cyclist Matt Todd, shows the driver threatening to
> > > strike a bicyclist with his car.
>
> > > "If you don't move, I'll run you over," he said just a few seconds
> > > before putting the car in gear, lightly striking a bicyclist..."
>
> > > More with videos:http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=141270&catid=3
>
> > > --
> > > Critical Mass Londonhttp://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
> > > "Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"
>
> > Translation :-
> > A group of cyclist riding their bikes in a dangerous & illegal manner,
> > with no regard to other traffic havee the cheek to complain about
> > another road user.
>
> Translation :-
> Motorist responds with a physical threat and is alleged to have used
> his car as a weapon to strike a bicycle and its rider.

Alledged?

>
> > The video then end with "Three minutes is not a lot to ask", well if
> > three minutes is not a lot to ask, why didn't the cyclist wait at he
> > red lights
>
> For reasons which have been discussed many times before, it would
> fragment the ride, aka procession, and cause even more hold-ups.
>

For reasons that have been discussed before, it is illegal & threatens
the safety of road users.

> > But we know the answer to that dson't we, 'it's for the safety of the
> > cyclists that we cycle together'
> > The poor little dears are scared to be out on their own, because they
> > don't feel safe.
> > Well they wont be safe if they cycle like that.
> > Did you notice how they all gathered roun the motorist to bully him,
> > perhaps he did not feel safe.
>
> You seem surprised that some cyclists are too scared to cycle on their
> own.

If these cyclists are an example, they should indeed not be let out
witout a carer

> Aren't you aware how drivers are permitted  to make our roads
> very dangerous for vulnerable road users?

No I am not.

>
> --
> UK Radical Campaignswww.zing.icom43.net
> A driving licence is a licence to kill.

Nt comments about the illegal cycling or their bullyin manner then?


Marie
From: Tony Dragon on
Doug wrote:
> On 2 Mar, 07:16, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 2 Mar, 07:01, Theodore <theodored...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:35:11 -0800 (PST), Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> It happens all over the world and seems to be tolerated by police
>>>>> despite the deliberate intent. Is there an unspoken special
>>>>> dispensation for drivers against cyclists?
>>>>> "...Friday evening, they corked the intersection of Peachtree St. and
>>>>> Eighth. One motorist strongly took exception.
>>>>> "You can't go through a red light if you're a vehicle," the motorist
>>>>> is heard saying on a YouTube video.
>>>>> The video, shot by cyclist Matt Todd, shows the driver threatening to
>>>>> strike a bicyclist with his car.
>>>>> "If you don't move, I'll run you over," he said just a few seconds
>>>>> before putting the car in gear, lightly striking a bicyclist..."
>>>>> More with videos:
>>>>> http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=141270&catid=3
>>>> LOL! Well done that driver.
>>> So you think that its OK for motorists to deliberately ram cyclists to
>>> make them move out of the way and this should be allowed in law? Would
>>> you say you are a typical motorist?
>>
>> So you think it's ok for cyclists to break the law & cycle dangerously.
>> Would you say you are a typical cyclist?
>>
> The cyclists were stationary

Does that include the one with the camera?

> at the time and therefore not cycling
> dangerously. Obviously I am not a typical cyclist.

And normal cyclists are grateful for that.

> Are you a typical
> motorist who is in favour of deliberately ramming cyclists,

No I am not " a typical motorist who is in favour of deliberately
ramming cyclists" because that is not a typical motorist.

> as you
> appear to be?
>

Only in your blinkered eyes.

> --
> Critical Mass London
> http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
> "Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"
>


--
Tony Dragon
From: The Revd on
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:35:11 -0800 (PST), Doug <jagmad(a)riseup.net>
wrote:

>It happens all over the world and seems to be tolerated by police
>despite the deliberate intent. Is there an unspoken special
>dispensation for drivers against cyclists?

There ought to be.

>"...Friday evening, they corked the intersection of Peachtree St. and
>Eighth. One motorist strongly took exception.
>"You can't go through a red light if you're a vehicle," the motorist
>is heard saying on a YouTube video.
>
>The video, shot by cyclist Matt Todd, shows the driver threatening to
>strike a bicyclist with his car.
>
>"If you don't move, I'll run you over," he said just a few seconds
>before putting the car in gear, lightly striking a bicyclist..."

Lightly? Too lightly, it seems.

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