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From: The Revd on 2 Mar 2010 13:35 On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 00:26:06 -0800 (PST), Doug <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote: >On 2 Mar, 07:59, ffor...(a)smythe.com (The Revd) wrote: >> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:35:11 -0800 (PST), Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> >> wrote: >> >> >It happens all over the world and seems to be tolerated by police >> >despite the deliberate intent. Is there an unspoken special >> >dispensation for drivers against cyclists? >> >> There ought to be. >> >> >"...Friday evening, they corked the intersection of Peachtree St. and >> >Eighth. One motorist strongly took exception. >> >"You can't go through a red light if you're a vehicle," the motorist >> >is heard saying on a YouTube video. >> >> >The video, shot by cyclist Matt Todd, shows the driver threatening to >> >strike a bicyclist with his car. >> >> >"If you don't move, I'll run you over," he said just a few seconds >> >before putting the car in gear, lightly striking a bicyclist..." >> >> Lightly? =A0Too lightly, it seems. >> >It is becoming increasingly clear here that motorists believe the >deliberate use of a car as a physical weapon is sometimes justified. Yes, absolutely. >Which, of course, explains a lot about the average motorist's mindset. Do you have a problem with that?
From: The Revd on 2 Mar 2010 13:36 On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:44:38 GMT, "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >Iain wrote: >> "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >> news:b54d8831-7bed-4c7f-8aeb-f6f05776218f(a)m37g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... >> >> It is becoming increasingly clear here that motorists believe the >> deliberate use of a car as a physical weapon is sometimes justified. >> Which, of course, explains a lot about the average motorist's mindset. >> >> =================== >> >> Surely you are beginning to realise and understand that cyclists who >> blatantly break the law (* see below) succeed in pushing even the most >> placid of motorists' buttons. To try and excuse this by saying such >> things as they make sure it is safe before they do so is simply no >> justification. And yes, there is an offence, 'Riding without due care >> and attention', as much as there is also an offence to ride a bicycle >> under the influence. There may even be an offence of dangerous >> riding! I leave it to you to prove me wrong! >> >> * I have previously qualified this by the examples of lights that >> already turned red, rather than trying to get through them as they >> are turning, or have just turned, red. >> >> Iain > >these are the main two from RTA1988: >28 Reckless cycling >A person who rides a cycle on a road recklessly is guilty of an offence. >29 Careless, and inconsiderate, cycling >If a person rides a cycle on a road without due care and attention, or >without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road, he is >guilty of an offence. > >So about 90 percent of cyclists commit offences every day, yet are not >charged, why is that? is there some sort of blind eye turned because they >are cyclists? Yes, and the government encourages them.
From: NM on 2 Mar 2010 13:38 On 2 Mar, 07:13, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: > > So you think that its OK for motorists to deliberately ram cyclists to > make them move out of the way In the circumstances I think it's fine, easy solution is not to deliberatly block the road.
From: Ophelia on 2 Mar 2010 13:48 "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:atfqo5hidgouf1vr5mm9tdotukr6adp0g1(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:29:50 -0800 (PST), Doug <jagmad(a)riseup.net> > wrote: > >>on a newsgroup that frequently demonises >>cyclists? > > pointing out that many cyclists jump red lights and are self righteous > isn't "demonising" its stating obvious facts. > -- > Mike. .. . > Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine. LOLOL well, the nick says it all lol -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/
From: Ret. on 2 Mar 2010 15:00
Doug wrote: > It happens all over the world and seems to be tolerated by police > despite the deliberate intent. Is there an unspoken special > dispensation for drivers against cyclists? > > "...Friday evening, they corked the intersection of Peachtree St. and > Eighth. One motorist strongly took exception. > "You can't go through a red light if you're a vehicle," the motorist > is heard saying on a YouTube video. > > The video, shot by cyclist Matt Todd, shows the driver threatening to > strike a bicyclist with his car. > > "If you don't move, I'll run you over," he said just a few seconds > before putting the car in gear, lightly striking a bicyclist..." Strange thing Doug, that the gyrocopter pilot who you have supported in the past, was acting in exactly the same way that you are here criticising: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254886/Gycrocopter-blade-cleaved-head-hunt-supporter-bottom.html So do you now condemn the pilot? Kev |