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From: Mrcheerful on 2 Mar 2010 18:08 webreader wrote: > On Mar 2, 8:52 pm, "Steve Walker" <spam-t...(a)beeb.net> wrote: >> Doug wrote: >>> On 2 Mar, 16:30, Christopher Bowlas <chris.bow...(a)googlemail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> On Mar 2, 9:40 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> >>>>> I am still waiting to see where your assertion is enshrined in law >>>>> about someone's 'right to a free passage' entitles them to the >>>>> violent use of a weapon. >> >>>> How about you proving you have the right to block someone's passage >>>> without their consent? >> >>> I maintain that blocking someone on a highway for a few minutes is a >>> much lesser offence than their use of threats of violence and actual >>> physical violence, especially with the aid of a car as a weapon. >> >> Criminals always say that sort of thing to minimise their own >> culpability. Someone who runs over a cyclist by accident will say >> that the Police should be concentrating on 'real criminals' like >> bank robbers and murderers instead. Bank robbers say that nonces and >> terrorists should be the priority. >> >> You can't excuse bad behaviour just by pointing at someone worse. > > How about we all turn up at the next CM as pedestrians, when the > pedestrian lights are in our favour we cross the road forcing CM to > stop. > Those who don't stop we just push off their bikes. > I recomend carrying umbrellas & walking sticks, they fit in the front > wheels of bikes quite well. > We could also have an official scorekeeper to see who bags the most > bikers in the evening. > (Extra points for felling Doug) > (Even more extra points if Doug is videoed on the ground) > > > WSR I'll go, add me to the list.
From: "Nightjar "cpb" on 2 Mar 2010 18:15 Doug wrote: > On 2 Mar, 17:35, Toom Tabard <t...(a)tabard.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >> On 2 Mar, 17:12, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 2 Mar, 16:41, "Iain" <s...(a)smaps.net> wrote:> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >>>> news:decea9df-9f12-44e0-8f39-07a691c8107d(a)q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com... >>>>> Use of a public highway is not trespass. >>>> If you refer back to my previous post, you will find that misuse is trespass >>>> (viz. 'The Law on Torts'). >>>> Further to my post, Toom qualified this, also with a quote. You really >>>> should read posts more carefully. If you don't understand, please raise >>>> your hand and ask! >>> It doesn't say its a PUBLIC highway and on further inspection of your >>> source... >>> ""on the ground that the plaintiff was on the highway, the soil of >>> which belonged to the Duke of Rutland, not for the purpose of using it >>> in order to pass and repass, or for any reasonable or usual mode of >>> using the highway as a highway, I think he was a trespasser." >>> It seems you are being deliberately disingenuous. >> Road traffic offences apply to roads/highways 'to which the public has >> access'. That is not necessarily a public road, which is defined as a >> road maintained at public expense. >> > A road which is publicly owned is not subject to the law of trespass > and the public have permission to be there anyway. They have a rights to pass and repass and to use the highway in a reasonable or usual manner. They do not have the right to deny others those same rights. Colin Bignell
From: The Medway Handyman on 2 Mar 2010 19:54 Doug wrote: > It happens all over the world and seems to be tolerated by police > despite the deliberate intent. Is there an unspoken special > dispensation for drivers against cyclists? Don't you ever give up you sad fuckwit? You keep posting this bollox. Look at this thread. The vast majority, including cyclists have shot you down in flames. Just learn to live with the fact that cyclists are regarded by most people as sad no life muppet scum. -- Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.
From: The Medway Handyman on 2 Mar 2010 19:58 webreader wrote: > On Mar 2, 8:52 pm, "Steve Walker" <spam-t...(a)beeb.net> wrote: >> Doug wrote: >>> On 2 Mar, 16:30, Christopher Bowlas <chris.bow...(a)googlemail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> On Mar 2, 9:40 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> >>>>> I am still waiting to see where your assertion is enshrined in law >>>>> about someone's 'right to a free passage' entitles them to the >>>>> violent use of a weapon. >> >>>> How about you proving you have the right to block someone's passage >>>> without their consent? >> >>> I maintain that blocking someone on a highway for a few minutes is a >>> much lesser offence than their use of threats of violence and actual >>> physical violence, especially with the aid of a car as a weapon. >> >> Criminals always say that sort of thing to minimise their own >> culpability. Someone who runs over a cyclist by accident will say >> that the Police should be concentrating on 'real criminals' like >> bank robbers and murderers instead. Bank robbers say that nonces and >> terrorists should be the priority. >> >> You can't excuse bad behaviour just by pointing at someone worse. > > How about we all turn up at the next CM as pedestrians, when the > pedestrian lights are in our favour we cross the road forcing CM to > stop. > Those who don't stop we just push off their bikes. > I recomend carrying umbrellas & walking sticks, they fit in the front > wheels of bikes quite well. > We could also have an official scorekeeper to see who bags the most > bikers in the evening. > (Extra points for felling Doug) > (Even more extra points if Doug is videoed on the ground) Let me know if it ever happens, I'll be there. -- Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.
From: Iain on 2 Mar 2010 21:03
"webreader" <websitereader(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:1bfd381f-cac6-4f54-b207-84e27f0edd8e(a)t41g2000yqt.googlegroups.com... How about we all turn up at the next CM as pedestrians, when the pedestrian lights are in our favour we cross the road forcing CM to stop. Those who don't stop we just push off their bikes. I recomend carrying umbrellas & walking sticks, they fit in the front wheels of bikes quite well. We could also have an official scorekeeper to see who bags the most bikers in the evening. (Extra points for felling Doug) (Even more extra points if Doug is videoed on the ground) ================== Well, according to http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk/main.html "The London Mass meets at 6.00pm on the last Friday of every month on the South Bank under Waterloo Bridge, by the National Film Theatre." So following this notice, the next 'Mass' (religious or otherwise!) will be meeting on Friday, 26th March. It is in my diary - I shall see nearer the time whether I will be able to make it or not. Iain |