From: Misifus on
Stephan Rothstein wrote:
> richard wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 May 2010 09:54:53 -0500, Omelet wrote:
>>> In article <1kgub4y3t06z1$.17crzt6zp3873$.dlg(a)>,
>>> richard <member(a)> wrote:
>>>> FYI, green cards never came with citizenship. Citizenship comes by
>>>> earning
>>>> it.
>>>> Birthing laws have been changed so that illegal alien children can no
>>>> longer become a natural citizen just because they were born in the
>>>> states.
>>> Cite please? I was under the impression that that was a
>>> constitutional right and can't be changed as passing laws like that
>>> can get overturned by the supreme court?
>> cite to which?
>> Green cards are not handed out just because you want one. They give
>> you the
>> legal right to work. They sure as hell are not a guranteed "right".
>> It used to be that a foreigner could gain citizenship simply by marriage.
>> That was changed back in the 70's becauset they found several soldiers
>> who
>> had married two or three vietnamese women while on tour. Each time they
>> came to the states, they got a divorce, she got her papers.
>> Do your own research. Educate yourself.
> What she was asking for some proof of was the claim that someone born in
> the US is not a citizen if his parents were here illegally. Since this
> violates the 14th Amendment, I doubt the law were changed.
> And, since you changed the argument to spouses getting citizenship, I am
> guessing you also know it was an incorrect statement. This debating
> technique makes me think you deliberately lied, but I am willing to give
> the benefit of the doubt for one answer and assume you made an honest
> mistake.
> Steve Rothstein

Actually, I have heard the argument that the phrase, "And subject to the
jurisdiction thereof," could support the theory that the children of
illegal aliens are not so subject, and therefore are not citizens.
However, such an argument hase not been made, so far as I know.


Rafael Seibert