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From: Corporal Jones on 14 Jul 2010 02:05

On 12/07/2010 22:23, alan.holmes wrote:
> I find that often I am following a car, which suddenly rams on it's brakes
> and indicates to turn left immediately when they get to the turning!
>
> I was always taught to indicate early at least 50 - 100 yards before the
> turnoff, but few, if any drivers these days do that, they all seem to wait
> until they are just about to turn then indicate and turn.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
Probably using a SatNav, they do tend to lag sometimes as mine does
making it more difficult in built up areas with lots of side roads.
I tend to glance at the screen and count the number of roads before the
one I want.

--
Corporal Jones
"Don't panic don't panic"
Life will go on albeit somewhat reduced

From: Squashme on 14 Jul 2010 05:43
On 13 July, 12:57, JNugent <jennings...(a)fastmail.fm> wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
> > JNugent <jennings...(a)fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >> alan.holmes wrote:
> >>> I find that often I am following a car, which suddenly rams on it's brakes
> >>> and indicates to turn left immediately when they get to the turning!
> >>> I was always taught to indicate early at least 50 - 100 yards before the
> >>> turnoff, but few, if any drivers these days do that, they all seem to wait
> >>> until they are just about to turn then indicate and turn.
> >> I agree on the "correct" way to do it, and in an ideal world one would always
> >> do it. But there can be situations where the left-turning driver judges that
> >> not indiucating left in advance can be a wise(r) way to proceed than the
> >> standard method.
> >> A good example would be approaching your left turn and noting that there is a
> >> large HGV or a bus waiting to turn right into it from the opposite direction.
> >> Give the driver enough notice and he'll be tempted to turn in front of you
> >> and then you'll be stuck behind him. And that is Not Good (depending on the
> >> type of road the turning is, of course).
> > And that would never do.
>
> Absolutely. If it is easily avoided (and it is), it's better avoided.

What pleasure you must take from these minor victories.
From: mileburner on 14 Jul 2010 06:23
Squashme wrote:
>
> What pleasure you must take from these minor victories.

He also seems to get a similar smug satisfaction from minor usenet
victories.


From: JNugent on 14 Jul 2010 06:43
Squashme wrote:

> JNugent <jennings...(a)fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>> JNugent <jennings...(a)fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>> alan.holmes wrote:

>>>>> I find that often I am following a car, which suddenly rams on it's brakes
>>>>> and indicates to turn left immediately when they get to the turning!
>>>>> I was always taught to indicate early at least 50 - 100 yards before the
>>>>> turnoff, but few, if any drivers these days do that, they all seem to wait
>>>>> until they are just about to turn then indicate and turn.

>>>> I agree on the "correct" way to do it, and in an ideal world one would always
>>>> do it. But there can be situations where the left-turning driver judges that
>>>> not indiucating left in advance can be a wise(r) way to proceed than the
>>>> standard method.
>>>> A good example would be approaching your left turn and noting that there is a
>>>> large HGV or a bus waiting to turn right into it from the opposite direction.
>>>> Give the driver enough notice and he'll be tempted to turn in front of you
>>>> and then you'll be stuck behind him. And that is Not Good (depending on the
>>>> type of road the turning is, of course).

>>> And that would never do.

>> Absolutely. If it is easily avoided (and it is), it's better avoided.

> What pleasure you must take from these minor victories.

If the topic is of so little moment, one marvels that you ever thought it
necessary to take a contrary line.
From: GT on 14 Jul 2010 06:54
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>>>>
>>>> I find that often I am following a car, which suddenly rams on it's
>>>> brakes and indicates to turn left immediately when they get to the
>>>> turning!
>>>>
>>>> I was always taught to indicate early at least 50 - 100 yards before
>>>> the turnoff, but few, if any drivers these days do that, they all seem
>>>> to wait until they are just about to turn then indicate and turn.
>>>
>>> You find that they actually indicate?
>>> And with traffic lights near me, my road and the opposite road are
>>> single lane, so both sides either turn right, left or go straight on.
>>> When we change to amber I indicate to turn right and wait for the dope
>>> opposite to let me know where he's going.
>>
>> Why do you wait for an amber light to tell others around you what your
>> intentions are? You should be signalling as you approach the lights,
>> whilst waiting and as you move off.
>
> Cos i'm sick and tired of replacing indicator bulbs.

I have never changed an indicator bulb in my 8 year old car and I signal
whenever I'm turning or changing lane etc.

Had you thought that the people you are complaining about are also thinking
exactly the same of you. I certainly would be if I came up behind you at the
lights and positioned my car to follow you 'straight on' as you are
signalling in neither direction. As the lights change and we all set off
your sudden 'decision' to turn right would be extremely annoying! Same thing
when facing you at the lights - you are signalling straight on, therefore I
know there is no rush to set off as my path to turn right will be blocked.
As the lights change you suddently decide to turn right and I now have an
opportunity to turn, but I'm set up for a slow casual crawl forward until
there is a break in the 'straight on' traffic that you are leading.


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