From: Lobby Dosser on
"Oren" <Oren(a)127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:tgdo06ppb2961udjnkkrfh4mtafr58dn97(a)4ax.com...
> On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:26:30 -0700, "Lobby Dosser" <LD(a)invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>"terry" <tsanford(a)nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:d1dc9a49-3a1a-46d5-8105-f150e5a6aed5(a)40g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
>>> Agree: We have kept two such very powerful magnets from old hard
>>> drives.
>>> So strong that the two attracted each and clung through a 3 inch
>>> sapling!
>>> Wood not otherwise being magnetic AFIK! {:-)
>>>
>>> My neighbour recently borrowed one to get a piece of metal
>>> (successfully) out of his eye!
>>> We keep one magnet on the fridge. It's hard to dislodge!
>>>
>>> Got another couple of hard drives downstairs to be scrapped for small
>>> parts, especially the magnets.
>>>
>>> Development of stronger magnets has certainly progressed during the
>>> last 50 to 60 years! The magnets used for WWII magnetrons were huge.
>>> Nowadays each microwave oven normally contains two such annular
>>> (doughnut shape) magnets, which together will fit into a mail
>>> envelope!
>>>
>>> Suggestion about windy door, use a piece of
>>> string ........................... !
>>
>>
>>He's keeping his trousers up with that! :)
>
> Trousers? Are those the same as Breeches?
>

I was translating to Brit.

Just got in from the Isle of Skye
I'm not very big and I'm awfully shy
The ladies shout as I go by
Donald where's your troosers?

Chorus:

Let the winds blow high,
Let the winds blow low,
Down the street in my kilt I go
And all the ladies say hello
Donald where's your troosers?

From: mm on
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:55:57 +0100, "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>
>"Jeff The Drunk" <i-am(a)the.bar> wrote in message
>news:pan.2010.06.06.15.31.46(a)joesbarandgrilll.org...
>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:27:12 +0100, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff The Drunk wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:06:09 -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "john hamilton" <bluestarx(a)mail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hugc8b$uec$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> Have tried using the strongest cuboard magnet I can find (In north
>>>>>> London u.k.), but if the wind picks up surprisingly it will just not
>>>>>> hold. Also
>>>>>
>>>>> The magnet out of a hard drive is flat and very strong.
>>>>
>>>> Really? What kind of hard drive has a big flat magnet inside? That
>>>> defies all logic on the principals of how a hard drive works.
>>>
>>> ordinary IDE, the magnet is so strong that it is hard to get off a flat
>>> metal surface without tools!!!
>>
>> Well I guess you learn something new every day. I would think a magnet
>> anywhere near the metal recording medium where the data lives would wipe
>> it out.
>>
>
>Since Faraday all motors use magnets!
>
But this is Sunday. Faraday's not for 5 days.
From: mm on
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:24:59 -0700, "Lobby Dosser" <LD(a)invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>"Toby Sleigh" <toby.sleigh(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:8dCdnWFN3LkBI5bRnZ2dnUVZ7qadnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>
>> "Jeff The Drunk" <i-am(a)the.bar> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2010.06.06.15.12.51(a)joesbarandgrilll.org...
>>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:06:09 -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:
>>>
>>>> "john hamilton" <bluestarx(a)mail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:hugc8b$uec$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Have tried using the strongest cuboard magnet I can find (In north
>>>>> London u.k.), but if the wind picks up surprisingly it will just not
>>>>> hold. Also
>>>>
>>>> The magnet out of a hard drive is flat and very strong.
>>>
>>> Really? What kind of hard drive has a big flat magnet inside? That defies
>>> all logic on the principals of how a hard drive works.
>>
>> All hard drives, the head arm solenoid uses them. My shed's full of
>> magnets from HDDs. For example I use them to store sash clamps out of the
>> way on the ceiling. I've used one from a larger mainframe disk drive to
>> fish 37lb sash weights from a skip, you've just got to make sure it
>> doesn't touch the side of the skip.
>
>Sounds like trying to get a prize out of one of those crane machines! :()

It was from a speaker, not a harddrive, but I used a big magnet to try
to fish my keys that were ten feet down a drain pipe in front of the
Union railroad station in Baltimore. I ended up with a 2 foot piece
of rebar, but no keys. (I carried two sets of keys in those days
so getting home was easy.) It was a ceramic pipe I think.
From: mm on
On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:22:03 -0400, aemeijers <aemeijers(a)att.net>
wrote:

>
>Methinks that if OP can't figure a painless way to rig the front door to
>not lock him out every time it closes (like a snippet of duct tape over
>the the bolt),

Better than duct tape over the bolt (the triangular, wedge-like bolt,
I think you mean) is a paper wad stuck in the hole. It leaves no
residue and isn't visible if a burglar walks by when you take the car
for a test drive and leave the house unlocked.

The Watergate burglars used duct tape to keep one of the doors to the
hall open. The first time the guard walked by, he thought someone did
it during work hours, and removed it. The burglars replaced the
tape!!! **

The second time the guard walked by, he saw the tape and called the
police.

If I had been running the burglary, they wouldn't have been caught.

**I don't know why since I thought they were done coming and going by
then, and I thought all were inside. (Coming and going should be kept
at a minimum during a burglary.)

> he'd best not be doing any work on the brakes on his
>motorcar. Dunno about UK and Chubb or whoever, but door latch makers
>here in the states always put a little tab or button to disable the
>auto-lock feature when needed.


From: F Murtz on
john hamilton wrote:
> When working on my car, I bring it right up close to the house and lay my
> tools out on the floor behind the front door. Since you never know when it
> will rain, it works out very handy since then all I have to do is close the
> door; and don't have to be picking up all the tools.
>
> Now if its not warm the family doesn't like the cold air coming into the
> house and they want the front door shut, which is fair enough. Since the
> door just swings open I have to keep getting the keys out of my pocket to
> open the door.
>
> I would like the door to stay shut on its own accord, yet just open with a
> push without having to use the keys. There is no room on the door jamb to
> screw one of those helical spring self closers. And anyway in general use we
> dont want the door to close by itself. Which also rules out one of those
> hydraulic self closers which could fit on at the top of the door.
>
> Have tried using the strongest cuboard magnet I can find (In north London
> u.k.), but if the wind picks up surprisingly it will just not hold. Also
> tried cutting a thin wedge of cork glued to an upright jamb which makes the
> door a tight fit when closed. However the door shrinks in the summer and
> expands in the winter so that only works for about half the year.
>
> Grateful for any suggestions, especially something similar to the cork
> arrangement which works just fine prividing the weather suits it. Thanks.
>
>
It is possible to get electrically operated magnetic catches. You could
go the whole hog and make it remote control and keep remote in pocket.
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