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From: John on 31 May 2010 07:28 "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:ve47065es4nb49ljqmra3gkooev6og9lf7(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 31 May 2010 03:27:08 -0700 (PDT), Squashme > <squashme(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>I know "What about over-sensitivity?" you are going to ask, but I say >>that you'll just have to be less sensitive. > > that's going to be the problem, somebody standing near the lights, > ladders, WHY > -- > Mike. .. . > Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine. > I also wish that people would look and decide if they really need to stop the odd car - or if they can wait for a gap that is coming. Worse at junctions where one pedestrian can cause all roads to be slowed. We need to acknowledge that many peds think that if they press the button lots of times then it will speed up the process - or if someone has already pressed then when they get to the crossing they also have to press (same with lift buttons though). Perhaps the word "Wait" should be replaced by "Acknowledged"
From: Brimstone on 31 May 2010 07:45 "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:c3NMn.14900$BW1.1797(a)hurricane... > > "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:ve47065es4nb49ljqmra3gkooev6og9lf7(a)4ax.com... >> On Mon, 31 May 2010 03:27:08 -0700 (PDT), Squashme >> <squashme(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>I know "What about over-sensitivity?" you are going to ask, but I say >>>that you'll just have to be less sensitive. >> >> that's going to be the problem, somebody standing near the lights, >> ladders, WHY >> -- >> Mike. .. . >> Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine. >> > I also wish that people would look and decide if they really need to stop > the odd car - or if they can wait for a gap that is coming. Worse at > junctions where one pedestrian can cause all roads to be slowed. > We need to acknowledge that many peds think that if they press the button > lots of times then it will speed up the process - or if someone has > already pressed then when they get to the crossing they also have to press > (same with lift buttons though). Perhaps the word "Wait" should be > replaced by "Acknowledged" The bit I find really annoying when the button has been pressed and they take long time to change (not including where a has red to cars aspect has just cleared). All to often, one presses the button, waits and before the lights change there is a break in the traffic allowing one to cross safely. Later, the lights change and some poor sod has to wait for no one to cross.
From: Nick Finnigan on 31 May 2010 08:24 Squashme wrote: > On 31 May, 09:56, ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> > wrote: >> He thinks (in the Torygraph) that they should have a cancel button to >> use when a gap appears and you do not need the lights to change. >> Do you? >> -- > > How about automatic sensors that start to change the lights to stop > traffic as soon as a pedestrian appears wanting to cross, and then How would they detect which pedestrians want to cross? > start to change the lights to green once the pedestrian has crossed? That's what puffins are supposed to handle.
From: Squashme on 31 May 2010 09:17 On 31 May, 13:24, Nick Finnigan <n...(a)genie.co.uk> wrote: > Squashme wrote: > > On 31 May, 09:56, ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> > > wrote: > >> He thinks (in the Torygraph) that they should have a cancel button to > >> use when a gap appears and you do not need the lights to change. > >> Do you? > >> -- > > > How about automatic sensors that start to change the lights to stop > > traffic as soon as a pedestrian appears wanting to cross, and then > > How would they detect which pedestrians want to cross? That's one for those designer chappies. Hell, if they can put a cruise missile thorugh a window after a flight of hundreds of miles (often the right window too), surely they can handle that?
From: Squashme on 31 May 2010 09:19
On 31 May, 12:28, "John" <Who90nos...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:ve47065es4nb49ljqmra3gkooev6og9lf7(a)4ax.com...> On Mon, 31 May 2010 03:27:08 -0700 (PDT), Squashme > > <squas...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>I know "What about over-sensitivity?" you are going to ask, but I say > >>that you'll just have to be less sensitive. > > > that's going to be the problem, somebody standing near the lights, > > ladders, WHY > > -- > > Mike. .. . > > Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine. > > I also wish that people would look and decide if they really need to stop > the odd car - or if they can wait for a gap that is coming. Worse at > junctions where one pedestrian can cause all roads to be slowed. > We need to acknowledge that many peds think that if they press the button > lots of times then it will speed up the process - or if someone has already > pressed then when they get to the crossing they also have to press (same > with lift buttons though). Perhaps the word "Wait" should be replaced by > "Acknowledged" Ah, you've hit it! If only pedestrians had the patient, philosophical, self-denying, cooperative nature that motorists so regularly display. We can dream, can't we? |