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From: Sylvia Else on 23 May 2010 04:14 On 23/05/2010 5:03 PM, Scotty wrote: > "Sylvia Else"<sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote in message > news:4bf8ab59$0$15773$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > : On 22/05/2010 6:22 PM, Scotty wrote: > :> "Sylvia Else"<sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote in message > :> news:4bf65a25$0$1235$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > :> :>> Do I want to have engaged in a pointless stunt? No. > :> :> > :> :> You should try something challenging then...Like sailing around the > :> :> world in a small boat solo.....Of course you will have an advantage > :> :> over Miss Watson, You are older and possibly stronger. > :> : > :> : Challenging? > :> : > :> : Unpleasant? For sure. Boring? Definitely. Tiring? Most likely. > :> : Dangerous? Quite possibly, though it was an ocean going yacht, no doubt > :> : self-righting, with modern navigation equipment and communications. > :> : > :> : But challenging? Somehow I don't see it. > :> : > :> : Sylvia. > :> : > :> > :> Are you serious? one rouge wave at the wrong time when you didnt have a chance to harness > properly > :> and your gone. Fail to strap in whenin storm and smash ya head, your gone, lose your fresh > water, > :> your gone, Snap a mast or some other huge failure while rolling 360 deg and once again, your > pretty > :> much gone. > : > : I agreed that it was dangerous. But you're describing events that occur > : out of the blue, and about which little can be done. > : > : To my mind, something is challenging when it presents problems that take > : effort and ingenuity to overcome, and indeed which might be too > : difficult to deal with. > :> > :> Sure, if it wasnt for the storms, lonelyness, isolation, lack of fresh food, cold etc its a > absolute > :> doddle! > : > : I didn't say it was easy. > : > : Sylvia. > : > > So by your definition something thats difficult to do (not easy) is not challenging? I dont think I > follow your train of thought there...... > > For something to be challenging it will have to be difficult, but being difficult is not sufficient for it to be deemed challenging. There needs to be something else as well. Maybe we simply have different notions about the meaning of the word, and arguments about the meanings of words are pointless. Sylvia.
From: Jason James on 23 May 2010 04:34 "Sylvia Else" <sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote in message news:4bf8e401$0$1224$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > On 23/05/2010 5:03 PM, Scotty wrote: >> "Sylvia Else"<sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote in message >> news:4bf8ab59$0$15773$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> : On 22/05/2010 6:22 PM, Scotty wrote: >> :> "Sylvia Else"<sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote in message >> :> news:4bf65a25$0$1235$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> :> :>> Do I want to have engaged in a pointless stunt? No. >> :> :> >> :> :> You should try something challenging then...Like sailing around >> the >> :> :> world in a small boat solo.....Of course you will have an >> advantage >> :> :> over Miss Watson, You are older and possibly stronger. >> :> : >> :> : Challenging? >> :> : >> :> : Unpleasant? For sure. Boring? Definitely. Tiring? Most likely. >> :> : Dangerous? Quite possibly, though it was an ocean going yacht, no >> doubt >> :> : self-righting, with modern navigation equipment and communications. >> :> : >> :> : But challenging? Somehow I don't see it. >> :> : >> :> : Sylvia. >> :> : >> :> >> :> Are you serious? one rouge wave at the wrong time when you didnt have >> a chance to harness >> properly >> :> and your gone. Fail to strap in whenin storm and smash ya head, your >> gone, lose your fresh >> water, >> :> your gone, Snap a mast or some other huge failure while rolling 360 >> deg and once again, your >> pretty >> :> much gone. >> : >> : I agreed that it was dangerous. But you're describing events that occur >> : out of the blue, and about which little can be done. >> : >> : To my mind, something is challenging when it presents problems that >> take >> : effort and ingenuity to overcome, and indeed which might be too >> : difficult to deal with. >> :> >> :> Sure, if it wasnt for the storms, lonelyness, isolation, lack of >> fresh food, cold etc its a >> absolute >> :> doddle! >> : >> : I didn't say it was easy. >> : >> : Sylvia. >> : >> >> So by your definition something thats difficult to do (not easy) is not >> challenging? I dont think I >> follow your train of thought there...... >> >> > > For something to be challenging it will have to be difficult, but being > difficult is not sufficient for it to be deemed challenging. There needs > to be something else as well. > > Maybe we simply have different notions about the meaning of the word, and > arguments about the meanings of words are pointless. C'mon Sylvia,..its a girl-girl thing with you isn't it? :-) Jason
From: Sylvia Else on 23 May 2010 04:38 On 23/05/2010 6:34 PM, Jason James wrote: > "Sylvia Else"<sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote in message > news:4bf8e401$0$1224$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> On 23/05/2010 5:03 PM, Scotty wrote: >>> "Sylvia Else"<sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote in message >>> news:4bf8ab59$0$15773$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> : On 22/05/2010 6:22 PM, Scotty wrote: >>> :> "Sylvia Else"<sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote in message >>> :> news:4bf65a25$0$1235$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> :> :>> Do I want to have engaged in a pointless stunt? No. >>> :> :> >>> :> :> You should try something challenging then...Like sailing around >>> the >>> :> :> world in a small boat solo.....Of course you will have an >>> advantage >>> :> :> over Miss Watson, You are older and possibly stronger. >>> :> : >>> :> : Challenging? >>> :> : >>> :> : Unpleasant? For sure. Boring? Definitely. Tiring? Most likely. >>> :> : Dangerous? Quite possibly, though it was an ocean going yacht, no >>> doubt >>> :> : self-righting, with modern navigation equipment and communications. >>> :> : >>> :> : But challenging? Somehow I don't see it. >>> :> : >>> :> : Sylvia. >>> :> : >>> :> >>> :> Are you serious? one rouge wave at the wrong time when you didnt have >>> a chance to harness >>> properly >>> :> and your gone. Fail to strap in whenin storm and smash ya head, your >>> gone, lose your fresh >>> water, >>> :> your gone, Snap a mast or some other huge failure while rolling 360 >>> deg and once again, your >>> pretty >>> :> much gone. >>> : >>> : I agreed that it was dangerous. But you're describing events that occur >>> : out of the blue, and about which little can be done. >>> : >>> : To my mind, something is challenging when it presents problems that >>> take >>> : effort and ingenuity to overcome, and indeed which might be too >>> : difficult to deal with. >>> :> >>> :> Sure, if it wasnt for the storms, lonelyness, isolation, lack of >>> fresh food, cold etc its a >>> absolute >>> :> doddle! >>> : >>> : I didn't say it was easy. >>> : >>> : Sylvia. >>> : >>> >>> So by your definition something thats difficult to do (not easy) is not >>> challenging? I dont think I >>> follow your train of thought there...... >>> >>> >> >> For something to be challenging it will have to be difficult, but being >> difficult is not sufficient for it to be deemed challenging. There needs >> to be something else as well. >> >> Maybe we simply have different notions about the meaning of the word, and >> arguments about the meanings of words are pointless. > > C'mon Sylvia,..its a girl-girl thing with you isn't it? :-) > I don't know what you mean by that. Sylvia.
From: Sylvia Else on 23 May 2010 04:41 On 15/05/2010 2:43 PM, Clocky wrote: > Could do with some more hype, what do you reckon? > > I'm wondering what the record is for the youngest person to be killed trying to be the youngest person to do something. Actually, having written that, I remembered an event, and a bit of research yielded. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Dubroff Another Jessica. Must be something about the name. Sylvia.
From: Noddy on 23 May 2010 06:22
" Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message news:4bf8d35a$0$316$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > So by your definition something thats difficult to do (not easy) is not > challenging? I dont think I > follow your train of thought there...... I'm not speaking for Sylvia, but as far as I'm concerned difficult and challenging don't always go hand in hand. For example, some things, such as loading a pile of bricks into a trailer for example, can be difficult but isn't very challenging. It's *strenuous*, sure, but it's not a *challenge* in any sense that it's a test of mental ability. It's just simply labouring along without any real input involved other than to pick up from here and put down over there. On the other hand, juggling raw eggs requires very little physical effort but is *very* challenging. -- Regards, Noddy. |