From: OzOne on
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:17:45 +1000, Sylvia Else
<sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:

>On 14/06/2010 7:06 PM, OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:42:07 +1000, Sylvia Else
>> <sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 14/06/2010 3:17 PM, OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:59:09 +1000, Sylvia Else
>>>> <sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guess we 'control' that part of the ocean so tis easier for us
>>>>>
>>>>> In what sense do we 'control' it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amsa.gov.au/Search_and_Rescue/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/aboutus/howatcworks/ourairspace.asp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OzOne of the three twins
>>>>
>>>> I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
>>>
>>> Apparently we don't control it:
>>>
>>> http://www.amsa.gov.au/About_AMSA/Corporate_information/Recent_Events/2010/June-WildEyes.asp
>>>
>>> "The Maritime Rescue Coordination Centre at La Reunion, operated by
>>> France, is coordinating the search& rescue response overall as Wild
>>> Eyes is in La Reunion's search and rescue region. Australia offered to
>>> assist if required."
>>>
>>> The reported position is also just outside Australia's FIR, for all the
>>> relevance the latter has to a yacht.
>>>
>>> I'd have thought this put the financial obligation on France.
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>
>>
>> Apparently we do..
>>
>> http://www.amsa.gov.au/About_AMSA/Corporate_information/Recent_Events/2010/June-WildEyes.asp
>> "At 12.30pm overall coordination of the search and rescue was
>> transferred to the Australian Maritime Safety Authority's Rescue
>> Coordination Centre (known as "RCC Australia"), as the yacht Wild Eyes
>> had drifted into the Australian search and rescue region. "
>>
>> "The vessel was located by the QANTAS Airbus just after at 4.00pm
>> (AEST) "
>>
>
>It was initially in France's area of responsibility. France should
>therefore pay. Otherwise you have the situation where a country can seek
>to delay rescue efforts so as to avoid financial liability. In any case,
>France asked for the aircraft to be sent. They should pay for it.
>
>Sylvia.

You don't seem to understand that responsibilities are shared.
Sometimes it in your area, sometimes it's not

AMSA's services are mainly provided on a cost recovery basis from fee
and levy revenue sources. It also receives Community Service
Obligation funding from the Commonwealth Government specifically
relating to aviation and maritime search and rescue operations and
boating safety education.

Emergency Response Division

is responsible for delivering national search and rescue coordination
and marine pollution response services, which involve:

* Providing a 24 hour Rescue Coordination Centre servicing the
internationally agreed Australian Search and Rescue Region for the
aviation and maritime sectors.
* Assuming coordination of maritime and aviation search and rescue
incidents.
* Providing a maritime distress and safety communications network
that meets the requirements of the Safety of Life at Sea (SOLAS)
Convention and also can be used by suitably equipped non-SOLAS
vessels.
* Administering a ship reporting system that identifies and tracks
ships at sea as a safety measure and provides a database of ships that
may be in a position to respond to an emergency.
* Providing training and specialist search and rescue equipment to
selected general aviation operators designated as Search and Rescue
Units (SRUs) around Australia.
* Contributing to international and national issues of
significance concerning aviation and maritime search and rescue
activities, maintaining and enhancing strategic relationships and
increasing public awareness of maritime safety issues.
* Providing a maritime safety communications network that
broadcasts and receives safety and navigation information to and from
ships at sea.




OzOne of the three twins

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From: OzOne on
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:49:06 +1000, "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote:

> it's deliberate
>sheer bloody mindedness......

I point out your mistakes....




OzOne of the three twins

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From: Noddy on

<OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> I'd be interested to know where you draw the line at "personal
> adventure"

Precisely as I mentioned. Anyone setting off on an out of the ordinary trek
where there is a fair chance that they'll need to call for help if things
don't go exactly as planned.

> If my mother in law decided to walk to the local shop it'd be a
> prsonal adventure and she may actually require rescue.

I suspect that only someone in your family would consider walking to the
local shop a "personal adventure".

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Regards,
Noddy.



From: Noddy on

<OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> Ahhh yeah...actually they do.

Oh.

So, presumably you're still googling for a cite to confirm this, or do you
expect us to believe it to be the case just because you say it is?

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Noddy.



From: Noddy on

<OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> Oh and then they spend more money analysing the event to see if they
> could have done it better.

Ah. So you're in charge of the operation then, are you?

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Noddy.