Justice at last
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From: Derek C on 15 Apr 2010 06:01 On 15 Apr, 10:39, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > "Adrian" <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:82o4ooFr1hU4(a)mid.individual.net... > > > "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much > > like they were saying: > > >>> But, meanwhile, so that we know we're looking at comparable events, > >>> when did you last see any car driver intentionally drive along the > >>> pavement for a significant proportion of their journey? > > >> <Scratches head> Can't say I have guv. > > > No, nor me. > > >> But I was defending the never-and-always type of arguments. > > > I must've missed those. > > It goes along the lines of: cyclists always ride on the pavement, jump red > lights ride without lights, ignore the law etc. and drivers never do those > things. Both are of course quite untrue. Many cyclists are perfectly law abiding, but quite a significant number of them are anything but! Motorists generally have much more to lose, in terms of their licences, big fines, imprisonment, etc, and are much more easily traced if they transgress because their vehicles have registration plates. Derek C
From: JNugent on 15 Apr 2010 06:09 mileburner wrote: > "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:82o4ooFr1hU4(a)mid.individual.net... >> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much >> like they were saying: >> >>>> But, meanwhile, so that we know we're looking at comparable events, >>>> when did you last see any car driver intentionally drive along the >>>> pavement for a significant proportion of their journey? >>> <Scratches head> Can't say I have guv. >> No, nor me. >> >>> But I was defending the never-and-always type of arguments. >> I must've missed those. > > It goes along the lines of: cyclists always ride on the pavement, jump red > lights ride without lights, ignore the law etc. and drivers never do those > things. Both are of course quite untrue. It is safe to say that in any demonstrable case where a driver or motorcyclist had driven or ridden *along* a footway *in the manner of a cyclist*, no-one here would condemn similarly robust punishment for it.
From: Adrian on 15 Apr 2010 06:11 JNugent <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > It is safe to say that in any demonstrable case where a driver or > motorcyclist had driven or ridden *along* a footway *in the manner of a > cyclist*, no-one here would condemn similarly robust punishment for it. Well, nobody sane. There's always the Medway Handymong.
From: JNugent on 15 Apr 2010 06:11 Bod wrote: > On 15/04/2010 10:44, mileburner wrote: >> <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message >> news:hq6ml5$s0o$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:28:12 +0100 >>> "mileburner"<mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>>> Err, they do, you can see it almost daily. >>> >>> People drving across the pavement to park in their driveways doesn't >>> count. >> >> It does to the people they hit. > I've never seen this happen. > Assuming that they have a proper 'dropped kerb crossing', > They are 'legally' allowed to drive across the pavement. I'm not so sure that they even need the kerb-drop to be lawful (in the sense of the offence of driving along the footway). It is lawful to drive across a footway to reach lnd within a certain short distance of the carriageway. It need not involve a constructed driveway.
From: JNugent on 15 Apr 2010 06:13
Tom Crispin wrote: > On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:33:30 +0100, Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> > wrote: > >> On 15/04/2010 09:27, Tom Crispin wrote: >>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 08:57:15 +0100, Bod<bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> A car driver would quite possibly be incarcerated even, for driving on >>>> the pavement! >>> Really! I regularly see cars that have clearly been driven on the >>> pavement, yet the police seem to ignore this offence which you claim >>> in serious enough to warrant a prison sentence. >>> >>> >> What! Driving around on pavements? >> >> Where have you seen this happen? > > You have not read what I posted properly. Nor you what others had posted. The offener was penalised for four separate offences he had committed (of which riding long a footway was only one). The only penalty available to the courts was a financial one. |