From: Kiteflyer on
On Nov 19, 11:04 am, Bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Mike P wrote:
> > On 19 Nov, 10:41, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
> >> like they were saying:
>
> >>>>> When I passed my test (44 yrs ago), the examiner said, "assume your
> >>>>> indicators have failed, so for the next ten minutes you must use only
> >>>>> hand signals". I'm surprised that the modern test doesn't use the same
> >>>>> procedure.
> >>>> Indicators don't "just fail".
> >>> So you always know when a bulb is going to fail & change it beforehand?
> >> Bulbs are so hard to buy, or keep spares handy, aren't they?
>
> > I usually carry a decent amount of spare bulbs around. Nothing worse
> > than havign to drive on a motorway in the dark with only one headlight
> > working, or having to negotiate London with an indicator out.  Most
> > cars I've owned, bar the Puma it was a 5 min job to change the bulbs
> > in, though I understand some more modern ones aren't quite so easy.
>
> > Mike P
>
> My Vectra bulbs are very fiddly, especially the
> rears. I certainly wouldn't relish changing them
> on a dark cold and rainy night in the middle of
> nowhere.
>
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Call the AA. Though you only get 5 call out now before they kick you
out. It's a fiddle.
From: Kiteflyer on
On Nov 19, 11:33 am, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
> >>>>> When I passed my test (44 yrs ago), the examiner said, "assume your
> >>>>> indicators have failed, so for the next ten minutes you must use
> >>>>> only hand signals". I'm surprised that the modern test doesn't use
> >>>>> the same procedure.
> >>>> Indicators don't "just fail".
> >>> So you always know when a bulb is going to fail & change it
> >>> beforehand?
> >> Bulbs are so hard to buy, or keep spares handy, aren't they?
> > So you admit that bulbs do blow, so indicators will 'just fail' if the
> > bulb blows.
>
> I don't regard a bulb blowing as the indicators "failing".

I'd regard anything that stops them working as them failing.
I carry spares, but I'm sure the AA would have bulbs and fuses.
From: Bod on
Kiteflyer wrote:
> On Nov 19, 11:04 am, Bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> Mike P wrote:
>>> On 19 Nov, 10:41, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
>>>> like they were saying:
>>>>>>> When I passed my test (44 yrs ago), the examiner said, "assume your
>>>>>>> indicators have failed, so for the next ten minutes you must use only
>>>>>>> hand signals". I'm surprised that the modern test doesn't use the same
>>>>>>> procedure.
>>>>>> Indicators don't "just fail".
>>>>> So you always know when a bulb is going to fail & change it beforehand?
>>>> Bulbs are so hard to buy, or keep spares handy, aren't they?
>>> I usually carry a decent amount of spare bulbs around. Nothing worse
>>> than havign to drive on a motorway in the dark with only one headlight
>>> working, or having to negotiate London with an indicator out. Most
>>> cars I've owned, bar the Puma it was a 5 min job to change the bulbs
>>> in, though I understand some more modern ones aren't quite so easy.
>>> Mike P
>> My Vectra bulbs are very fiddly, especially the
>> rears. I certainly wouldn't relish changing them
>> on a dark cold and rainy night in the middle of
>> nowhere.
>>
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>
> Call the AA. Though you only get 5 call out now before they kick you
> out. It's a fiddle.


Nah, I change them myself, anyway I'm not in the AA.
Hmm, <thinks>.... would I want Alcoholics
Anonymous to change my bulbs?


Bod
From: Kiteflyer on
On Nov 19, 12:34 pm, Bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Kiteflyer wrote:
> > On Nov 19, 11:04 am, Bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Mike P wrote:
> >>> On 19 Nov, 10:41, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
> >>>> like they were saying:
> >>>>>>> When I passed my test (44 yrs ago), the examiner said, "assume your
> >>>>>>> indicators have failed, so for the next ten minutes you must use only
> >>>>>>> hand signals". I'm surprised that the modern test doesn't use the same
> >>>>>>> procedure.
> >>>>>> Indicators don't "just fail".
> >>>>> So you always know when a bulb is going to fail & change it beforehand?
> >>>> Bulbs are so hard to buy, or keep spares handy, aren't they?
> >>> I usually carry a decent amount of spare bulbs around. Nothing worse
> >>> than havign to drive on a motorway in the dark with only one headlight
> >>> working, or having to negotiate London with an indicator out.  Most
> >>> cars I've owned, bar the Puma it was a 5 min job to change the bulbs
> >>> in, though I understand some more modern ones aren't quite so easy.
> >>> Mike P
> >> My Vectra bulbs are very fiddly, especially the
> >> rears. I certainly wouldn't relish changing them
> >> on a dark cold and rainy night in the middle of
> >> nowhere.
>
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>
> > Call the AA. Though you only get 5 call out now before they kick you
> > out. It's a fiddle.
>
> Nah, I change them myself, anyway I'm not in the AA.
> Hmm, <thinks>.... would I want Alcoholics
> Anonymous to change my bulbs?
>
> Bod- Hide quoted text -
>
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That's cos you're a boy. I'm a helpless female and I don't do
mechanics as it ruins my nails.
From: Mike P on
On 19 Nov, 12:24, Kiteflyer <ann_marie050...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Nov 19, 11:04 am, Bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mike P wrote:
> > > On 19 Nov, 10:41, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
> > >> like they were saying:
>
> > >>>>> When I passed my test (44 yrs ago), the examiner said, "assume your
> > >>>>> indicators have failed, so for the next ten minutes you must use only
> > >>>>> hand signals". I'm surprised that the modern test doesn't use the same
> > >>>>> procedure.
> > >>>> Indicators don't "just fail".
> > >>> So you always know when a bulb is going to fail & change it beforehand?
> > >> Bulbs are so hard to buy, or keep spares handy, aren't they?
>
> > > I usually carry a decent amount of spare bulbs around. Nothing worse
> > > than havign to drive on a motorway in the dark with only one headlight
> > > working, or having to negotiate London with an indicator out.  Most
> > > cars I've owned, bar the Puma it was a 5 min job to change the bulbs
> > > in, though I understand some more modern ones aren't quite so easy.
>
> > > Mike P
>
> > My Vectra bulbs are very fiddly, especially the
> > rears. I certainly wouldn't relish changing them
> > on a dark cold and rainy night in the middle of
> > nowhere.
>
> > Bod- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Call the AA. Though you only get 5 call out now before they kick you
> out. It's a fiddle.

I'm in the AA. Had to call them out on Tuesday night actually. AirFlow
meter in my car packed up, leaving me stranded in Slough. Got to me
within 30 mins, spent 90 mins diagnosing and testing everything in the
fuel system as it wasn't immediately obvious what the problem was. Did
a very thorough job, I was quite impressed. I was just expecting to be
fobbed off and towed home. For what I pay per year, it was well worth
it - I got my entire fuel and ignition system checked out, and
anything that needed cleaning cleaning. The yearly fee is still
cheaper than a tow home, and if I do it 4 more times, then I really
will have got super value.

Mike P