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From: Graham on 16 Jul 2008 09:09
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:43:42 +0100, "Tim.."
<the.farm.no(a)spam.btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"Graham" <graham(a)hglmotors.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:42:55 +0100, "Sarah" <sarah(a)here.com> wrote:
>>
>>>OO that would be really handy. The engine number is AZD.
>>>
>>>Thanks Slider.
>>>
>>
>> AZD should be using a 5 wire sensor so �127 price is about correct
>
>
>Thats an FSI is it not? But in any case- yes it should be a narrow band
>titanium 5 wire-er.
>
>Tim..
>

Actually a 5 wire Wide Band Zirconia. The AZD engine isn't listed in
the Bosch catalogue but is in the NTK

GOLF IV 1.6i 16V ATN, AUS, AZD, BCB 02/00 on Front LZA11-V4

"L" Linear Wide Band "Z" Zirconia "A" 18mm thread

Graham
From: Tim.. on 16 Jul 2008 12:16

"Graham" <graham(a)hglmotors.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:43:42 +0100, "Tim.."
> <the.farm.no(a)spam.btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Graham" <graham(a)hglmotors.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:48or749h08v0ro0l2ipresm6oph0ojqor8(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:42:55 +0100, "Sarah" <sarah(a)here.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>OO that would be really handy. The engine number is AZD.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks Slider.
>>>>
>>>
>>> AZD should be using a 5 wire sensor so �127 price is about correct
>>
>>
>>Thats an FSI is it not? But in any case- yes it should be a narrow band
>>titanium 5 wire-er.
>>
>>Tim..
>>
>
> Actually a 5 wire Wide Band Zirconia. The AZD engine isn't listed in
> the Bosch catalogue but is in the NTK
>
> GOLF IV 1.6i 16V ATN, AUS, AZD, BCB 02/00 on Front LZA11-V4
>
> "L" Linear Wide Band "Z" Zirconia "A" 18mm thread

I stand corrected- for some reason (see other post) I thought this was a Mk5
Golf. Back to the men-in-white-coats...

tim..


From: Tim.. on 16 Jul 2008 12:17

"Tim.." <the.farm.no(a)spam.btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> "Sarah" <sarah(a)here.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Slider" <slider(a)slide.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Sarah" <sarah(a)here.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Slider" <slider(a)slide.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Sarah" <sarah(a)here.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q9qdnRi6ztK2TeHVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>>>>> OO hubbys car had a problem today. The Oxygen sensor \ lamba sensor
>>>>>> had gone to oxy heaven. He scanned it with a diagnostic thingy and it
>>>>>> says 17604 oxygen lambda sensor circuit b1 s1 electrical malfunction"
>>>>>> his freind said its the one before the cat (whatever that is, I'm
>>>>>> sure I have no animals under my bonet, not that I check lol)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a bit of room to get at the sucker (his words) but it is
>>>>>> simple a case of just un screwing it after youdisconnect the wiring
>>>>>> loom bit and fitting the replacement and putting the elctrical plug
>>>>>> back on ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I said maybe he should spray it with WD40 and leave it overnight then
>>>>>> try and unscrew the thingy magig.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I nearly spat a chocolate digestive when he said its �127 + vat for a
>>>>>> new one and �60 for a garage to fit it. Hes quite handy at car stuff.
>>>>>> He did my front brakes, and brake slight switch on a mk4 aswell. So
>>>>>> sure I'm he can unscrew a blobby thing and put a new one in or does
>>>>>> this requite some special tool other than a spanner ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He can clear the fault on his scanner tool/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ooo this is for his mk4 golf 1.6 2001 his daily runner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> �127 + vat!!!! where from?
>>>>> I had to change two on my golf v6 4motion and they cost me about �83 +
>>>>> vat each - from VW. Fitting, I took it to a VW specialist who charged
>>>>> an hours labour (�35). Is the �127 + vat price the price the garage
>>>>> has told you. Suggest you check with VW.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That quote was from VW. Why on earth owuld they quote that much more!
>>>> gits!
>>>>
>>>> No that �127 was just for one genuine lambda sensor.
>>>>
>>>> Bloomin ek
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like prices have gone up then on Lambda sensors since the last
>>> time I bought mine. The V6 4 motion has 4 O2 sensors (2 before cat, 2
>>> after).
>>> I got rid of the V6 due to 'common problems' associated with all mk4
>>> golf's, it cost me a fortune in the 12 months I owned it.
>>>
>>> Part number for the lambda sensor is 036 906 262 J
>>>
>>
>> Much appreciated Slider :)
>>
>> They are expensive cars aren't they!
>>
>> We've had broken window regulators, brake light switch go, leaky rear
>> washer problem, broken clutch pedal to name a handful of them. I don't
>> know why we don't see it. Probly because its been quite reliable despite
>> everything. When its running good its a nice feeling. All these problems
>> have been in about 2 years of ownership. So I guess its it ain't too bad
>> but the parts are just sooooo expensive for little gizmo thingies vw want
>> a fortune!
>
> As you have found out- the perceived quality of VW, certainly the Golf 5,
> is alot higher than the reality! Hopefully you won;t have the infamous
> PVA-glue/cardboard-induced gearbox failure though..
>

Mk5 = Mk4 . they still have the disolving gearbox issues though!

Tim..


From: Sarah on 16 Jul 2008 16:05

"Sarah" <sarah(a)here.com> wrote in message
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> "Slider" <slider(a)slide.com> wrote in message news:g5kk06$51i$1(a)aioe.org...
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarah(a)here.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Slider" <slider(a)slide.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g5keeh$f16$1(a)aioe.org...
>>>>
>>>> "Sarah" <sarah(a)here.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Q9qdnRi6ztK2TeHVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>>>> OO hubbys car had a problem today. The Oxygen sensor \ lamba sensor
>>>>> had gone to oxy heaven. He scanned it with a diagnostic thingy and it
>>>>> says 17604 oxygen lambda sensor circuit b1 s1 electrical malfunction"
>>>>> his freind said its the one before the cat (whatever that is, I'm sure
>>>>> I have no animals under my bonet, not that I check lol)
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a bit of room to get at the sucker (his words) but it is
>>>>> simple a case of just un screwing it after youdisconnect the wiring
>>>>> loom bit and fitting the replacement and putting the elctrical plug
>>>>> back on ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I said maybe he should spray it with WD40 and leave it overnight then
>>>>> try and unscrew the thingy magig.
>>>>>
>>>>> I nearly spat a chocolate digestive when he said its �127 + vat for a
>>>>> new one and �60 for a garage to fit it. Hes quite handy at car stuff.
>>>>> He did my front brakes, and brake slight switch on a mk4 aswell. So
>>>>> sure I'm he can unscrew a blobby thing and put a new one in or does
>>>>> this requite some special tool other than a spanner ?
>>>>>
>>>>> He can clear the fault on his scanner tool/
>>>>>
>>>>> ooo this is for his mk4 golf 1.6 2001 his daily runner.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> �127 + vat!!!! where from?
>>>> I had to change two on my golf v6 4motion and they cost me about �83 +
>>>> vat each - from VW. Fitting, I took it to a VW specialist who charged
>>>> an hours labour (�35). Is the �127 + vat price the price the garage
>>>> has told you. Suggest you check with VW.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> That quote was from VW. Why on earth owuld they quote that much more!
>>> gits!
>>>
>>> No that �127 was just for one genuine lambda sensor.
>>>
>>> Bloomin ek
>>>
>>
>> Looks like prices have gone up then on Lambda sensors since the last time
>> I bought mine. The V6 4 motion has 4 O2 sensors (2 before cat, 2 after).
>> I got rid of the V6 due to 'common problems' associated with all mk4
>> golf's, it cost me a fortune in the 12 months I owned it.
>>
>> Part number for the lambda sensor is 036 906 262 J
>>
>
> Much appreciated Slider :)
>
> They are expensive cars aren't they!
>
> We've had broken window regulators, brake light switch go, leaky rear
> washer problem, broken clutch pedal to name a handful of them. I don't
> know why we don't see it. Probly because its been quite reliable despite
> everything. When its running good its a nice feeling. All these problems
> have been in about 2 years of ownership. So I guess its it ain't too bad
> but the parts are just sooooo expensive for little gizmo thingies vw want
> a fortune!
>

Update: He managed to do it. Was a stright swap. Only hard part was undoing
it which was done up tight. There was some anti seize on the new part on the
thready bit so I guess if it dies again it shall be easy to remove yer
right. And he reset the blasted engine management light and it hasn't come
back on. So job well done and saved some money from the garage.

Thank you lot for the advice it was well handy and defo needed. Thumbs up.
Jammy dodgers on me!!!


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