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"Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
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> jonz wrote:
>> "Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
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>>
>>>jonz wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Simon Dillon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Can someone give me the details of the diesel engines you will find in
>>>>>>Troopys from the first of the 70 series in 1985 onwards?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>4 Litre 2H 6 cyl indirect injection diesel
>>>>>they ar a tough and long lasting engine
>>>>>but very lacking in power
>>>>>work well with a set of extractors or even better a turbo
>>>>>
>>>>>the early 90s they were replaced by the 1Hz 4.2Litre diesel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hi,kev any thoughts on the 3.6l 1h engine? i have an fj40 with this
>>>> motor,( yeah i know :^) ) and very lacking in power sounds like it :^)
>>>> i`ve always had landys, 11a petrol shorty softtop presently, to
>>>> decide.........landy or toyota.......is the problem, cant keep `em all
>>>> :^( i hear parts are getting scarce, and pricey for the h. would like
>>>> stay with the diesel, tho. so i can run on homebrew.........j
>>>
>>>
>>>Hmmm
>>>is it a 40 or 45
>>>the 40s had the "B" engine, 4cyl 3L and later 3B 3.4L(there was also a
>>>light duty LJ40, these had the 2L 2.4L diesel engine and Hilux running
>>>gear)
>>>the 45s and 55s had the 6 cyl "H" engine
>>>All Toyotas models have the engine in their number
>>>and their model number will tell you what you have
>>>so a HJ45 would be
>>>H= H diesel engine, J= Landcruiser, 45= Body type
>>>the turbo 60s were HTJ60
>>>mine is a HZJ105, Hz diesel Landcruiser 100 series standard wagon
>>>
>>>the old H engine is getting on in years and may not have been a popular
>>>engine due to the fact that petrol wasn't that expensive so spares for
>>>the H may not be easy to find
>>>
>>>The H could always be swapped for a 2H, these engines were very popular
>>>and powered everything from utes, troopys(late 45 and early 75 series)
>>>and 60series wagons
>>
>>
>>
>> kev, thanks for the info., i`m a very recent convert to toyota, all
>> of four weeks in fact :^)..... not a planned move but the old girl was
>> cheap, and is definately more comfortable than the landie (must be
>> getting old) i should have been clearer in my post....the h motor was
>> installed by the po, it had the petrol engine previously afaik. it`s
>> registered with the diesel in it. the motor feels underpowered, with no
>> legs, the old drive it like you hate it adage comes to mind :^) but in
>> respect to the age of the thing, ive been taking it easy.....i will check
>> the injectors, and maybe fiddle with the timing..but maybe its just the
>> way there engines are ?? also, on first startup of the day, i glow it
>> for 10-15 seconds and it starts on first turn of the crank, but, for at
>> least a minute, it runs really rough, with enough (fuel) smoke coming out
>> of it to kill every mozzie for miles around........but every subsequent
>> start is ok. 5sec., glow and no smoke. crook glow plug(s) maybe ? gotta
>> fix it or the neighbors will be calling the epa :^)
>>
>
> As the others have said sounds like a crook injector
> get ya mate to check them
> also a set of extractors and 2 1/2 inch exhaust will make a noticable
> difference up around highway running speed
> also replace the air filter, this will also make a difference if it's old
> and blocked, of course the obligitory oil change will be nessasary
> especially if it has a dripping injector, that raw diesel will make it's
> way into the oil
>
> Kev

checked glow plugs, all ok......so injectors next i guess. extractors and
bigger pipe sounds good, i can get a set off a petrol engined vehicle of
same model....maybe with the help of the red spanner and a
hammer.........................:^) air filter is donaldson, mounted on the
guard, and is ok. can only hope any injector problem is repair rather than
replace, can only hope.... thanks for the help kev.
>


From: jonz on

"jonz" <series11(a)landy> wrote in message news:4675d0f2(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>
> "Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4675485a$0$19580$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>> jonz wrote:
>>> "Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:467414c1$0$22417$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>
>>>>jonz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>news:4643697d$0$11540$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Simon Dillon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can someone give me the details of the diesel engines you will find
>>>>>>>in Troopys from the first of the 70 series in 1985 onwards?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>4 Litre 2H 6 cyl indirect injection diesel
>>>>>>they ar a tough and long lasting engine
>>>>>>but very lacking in power
>>>>>>work well with a set of extractors or even better a turbo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the early 90s they were replaced by the 1Hz 4.2Litre diesel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hi,kev any thoughts on the 3.6l 1h engine? i have an fj40 with this
>>>>> motor,( yeah i know :^) ) and very lacking in power sounds like it
>>>>> :^) i`ve always had landys, 11a petrol shorty softtop presently, to
>>>>> decide.........landy or toyota.......is the problem, cant keep `em all
>>>>> :^( i hear parts are getting scarce, and pricey for the h. would like
>>>>> stay with the diesel, tho. so i can run on homebrew.........j
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hmmm
>>>>is it a 40 or 45
>>>>the 40s had the "B" engine, 4cyl 3L and later 3B 3.4L(there was also a
>>>>light duty LJ40, these had the 2L 2.4L diesel engine and Hilux running
>>>>gear)
>>>>the 45s and 55s had the 6 cyl "H" engine
>>>>All Toyotas models have the engine in their number
>>>>and their model number will tell you what you have
>>>>so a HJ45 would be
>>>>H= H diesel engine, J= Landcruiser, 45= Body type
>>>>the turbo 60s were HTJ60
>>>>mine is a HZJ105, Hz diesel Landcruiser 100 series standard wagon
>>>>
>>>>the old H engine is getting on in years and may not have been a popular
>>>>engine due to the fact that petrol wasn't that expensive so spares for
>>>>the H may not be easy to find
>>>>
>>>>The H could always be swapped for a 2H, these engines were very popular
>>>>and powered everything from utes, troopys(late 45 and early 75 series)
>>>>and 60series wagons
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> kev, thanks for the info., i`m a very recent convert to toyota, all
>>> of four weeks in fact :^)..... not a planned move but the old girl was
>>> cheap, and is definately more comfortable than the landie (must be
>>> getting old) i should have been clearer in my post....the h motor was
>>> installed by the po, it had the petrol engine previously afaik. it`s
>>> registered with the diesel in it. the motor feels underpowered, with no
>>> legs, the old drive it like you hate it adage comes to mind :^) but in
>>> respect to the age of the thing, ive been taking it easy.....i will
>>> check the injectors, and maybe fiddle with the timing..but maybe its
>>> just the way there engines are ?? also, on first startup of the day, i
>>> glow it for 10-15 seconds and it starts on first turn of the crank, but,
>>> for at least a minute, it runs really rough, with enough (fuel) smoke
>>> coming out of it to kill every mozzie for miles around........but every
>>> subsequent start is ok. 5sec., glow and no smoke. crook glow plug(s)
>>> maybe ? gotta fix it or the neighbors will be calling the epa :^)
>>>
>>
>> As the others have said sounds like a crook injector
>> get ya mate to check them
>> also a set of extractors and 2 1/2 inch exhaust will make a noticable
>> difference up around highway running speed
>> also replace the air filter, this will also make a difference if it's old
>> and blocked, of course the obligitory oil change will be nessasary
>> especially if it has a dripping injector, that raw diesel will make it's
>> way into the oil
>>
>> Kev
>
> checked glow plugs, all ok......so injectors next i guess. extractors
> and bigger pipe sounds good, i can get a set off a petrol engined vehicle
> of same model....maybe with the help of the red spanner and a
> hammer.........................:^) air filter is donaldson, mounted on
> the guard, and is ok. can only hope any injector problem is repair rather
> than replace, can only hope.... thanks for the help kev.


bit of an update, turns out to be *operator error* :^( because it was
originally petrol, there is no edic gear fitted...............talking to the
po on the weekend, and whinging about startup smoke, he said, "are you
heating it after it starts?" revelation time........about 3 seconds glow 5
seconds off................within 30 seconds no smoke, and ready to roll,
bloody cheap fix :^))) plus he gave me a heap of spares for the
motor....looks like bye, bye landy........hehe
>>
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