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From: Marts on 25 Jul 2010 06:00 http://www.theage.com.au/national/electric-car-maker-angry-over-import-deal-20100724-10pr2.html The government has shunned a local electric car manufacturer and has ordered vehicles from Mitsubishi. The local manufacturer says that its vehicle is bigger, more efficient and a lot cheaper. The government said that it doesn't meet two ADRs. The guy is specific about the 2 ADR comment but "cannot" say which 2 they are. Bullshit. If he knows that there are two then he'll know which two. And the mass produced criteria is a load of bullshit, too. It's funny (well, not really). the car could get a leg up and into mass production if the government leased its products. And the irony is that the government has subsidised the vehicle's development and manufacture. What is wrong with our governments and more importantly, these obsequeous pubic servants who pretty well run the governments when they deliberately go out of their way to ignore local manufacturers? Another case in example was the outsourcing of defence materiel to China. They go on about local jobs and so on when out electioneering, but when it comes down to actually doing something, it's the reverse.
From: George W Frost on 25 Jul 2010 09:30 "Marts" <marts(a)ymail.com> wrote in message news:lq6n46hl0ovs6mff0sv269rgohjqp6ljce(a)astraweb.com... > http://www.theage.com.au/national/electric-car-maker-angry-over-import-deal-20100724-10pr2.html > > The government has shunned a local electric car manufacturer and has > ordered > vehicles from Mitsubishi. > > The local manufacturer says that its vehicle is bigger, more efficient and > a lot > cheaper. > > The government said that it doesn't meet two ADRs. The guy is specific > about the > 2 ADR comment but "cannot" say which 2 they are. > > Bullshit. If he knows that there are two then he'll know which two. And > the mass > produced criteria is a load of bullshit, too. > > It's funny (well, not really). the car could get a leg up and into mass > production if the government leased its products. And the irony is that > the > government has subsidised the vehicle's development and manufacture. > > What is wrong with our governments and more importantly, these obsequeous > pubic > servants who pretty well run the governments when they deliberately go out > of > their way to ignore local manufacturers? Another case in example was the > outsourcing of defence materiel to China. > > They go on about local jobs and so on when out electioneering, but when it > comes > down to actually doing something, it's the reverse. > Plus, at $63,000 for the Mitsubishi as against $48,000 for the locally produced Blade Electron you would think that economics would have prevailed a little. Looking at both of them, the local Blade is a bigger car During early 2009 the i MiEV was exhibited in Australia at the Melbourne International Motor Show, and afterwards was toured throughout the country. Beginning in mid 2009, Mitsubishi conducted a twelve month field trial with potential electric vehicle customers, such as local, state and federal government bodies, and major fleet operators.[15] Sales to the public are scheduled to begin in Australia in July 2010 under leasing agreement at a price of AU$1,740 a month for 36 months, for a cumulative total of AU$62,640 after which the car has to be returned to the dealer.[6][16] The initial shipment will include only 40 units,[15] but Mitsubishi Motors Australia reported that just before the launch it has received applications for more than 100 vehicles from private companies and government departments.[17] Blade Electron: While some might baulk at the Electron's $48,000 asking price, BEV founder Ross Blade estimates that the car will pay for itself after a few years. "We know, from work done by CSIRO, that if you run our cars off brown coal, it's the same as running a petrol car - except that it's cheaper, and ultimately it pays for itself after three to five years depending on your drive cycle," Mr Blade told TMR. "The great benefit of electric cars is that you can choose to use 'green' energy. Most households already get 10 percent green as a component of their power provision - that immediately puts you ahead of a petrol car." "Then if you choose to say "well, I'm going to buy 20 percent more green power from my power company," that's even better." The Electron is sold with a three year warranty, and BEV offers a buyback plan for the Electron. Owners can sell their car back to the company after one year for $24,000, up to three years for $18,000.
From: Sekula on 25 Jul 2010 11:57 "George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:I%W2o.1648$FH2.17(a)viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com... > > "Marts" <marts(a)ymail.com> wrote in message > news:lq6n46hl0ovs6mff0sv269rgohjqp6ljce(a)astraweb.com... >> http://www.theage.com.au/national/electric-car-maker-angry-over-import-deal-20100724-10pr2.html >> >> The government has shunned a local electric car manufacturer and has >> ordered >> vehicles from Mitsubishi. >> >> The local manufacturer says that its vehicle is bigger, more efficient >> and a lot >> cheaper. >> >> The government said that it doesn't meet two ADRs. The guy is specific >> about the >> 2 ADR comment but "cannot" say which 2 they are. >> >> Bullshit. If he knows that there are two then he'll know which two. And >> the mass >> produced criteria is a load of bullshit, too. >> >> It's funny (well, not really). the car could get a leg up and into mass >> production if the government leased its products. And the irony is that >> the >> government has subsidised the vehicle's development and manufacture. >> >> What is wrong with our governments and more importantly, these obsequeous >> pubic >> servants who pretty well run the governments when they deliberately go >> out of >> their way to ignore local manufacturers? Another case in example was the >> outsourcing of defence materiel to China. >> >> They go on about local jobs and so on when out electioneering, but when >> it comes >> down to actually doing something, it's the reverse. >> > > > Plus, at $63,000 for the Mitsubishi as against $48,000 for the locally > produced Blade Electron > you would think that economics would have prevailed a little. > Looking at both of them, the local Blade is a bigger car > > During early 2009 the i MiEV was exhibited in Australia at the Melbourne > International Motor Show, and afterwards was toured throughout the > country. Beginning in mid 2009, Mitsubishi conducted a twelve month field > trial with potential electric vehicle customers, such as local, state and > federal government bodies, and major fleet operators.[15] > > Sales to the public are scheduled to begin in Australia in July 2010 under > leasing agreement at a price of AU$1,740 a month for 36 months, for a > cumulative total of AU$62,640 after which the car has to be returned to > the dealer.[6][16] The initial shipment will include only 40 units,[15] > but Mitsubishi Motors Australia reported that just before the launch it > has received applications for more than 100 vehicles from private > companies and government departments.[17] > > > > > > Blade Electron: > > > > While some might baulk at the Electron's $48,000 asking price, BEV founder > Ross Blade estimates that the car will pay for itself after a few years. > > > "We know, from work done by CSIRO, that if you run our cars off brown > coal, it's the same as running a petrol car - except that it's cheaper, > and ultimately it pays for itself after three to five years depending on > your drive cycle," Mr Blade told TMR. > > "The great benefit of electric cars is that you can choose to use 'green' > energy. Most households already get 10 percent green as a component of > their power provision - that immediately puts you ahead of a petrol car." > > "Then if you choose to say "well, I'm going to buy 20 percent more green > power from my power company," that's even better." > > > The Electron is sold with a three year warranty, and BEV offers a buyback > plan for the Electron. Owners can sell their car back to the company after > one year for $24,000, up to three years for $18,000. Wow! 50% depreciation for 1 yrs use..gimme a dozen..lol
From: Doug Jewell on 25 Jul 2010 17:35 George W Frost wrote: > > Plus, at $63,000 for the Mitsubishi as against $48,000 for the locally > produced Blade Electron > you would think that economics would have prevailed a little. > Looking at both of them, the local Blade is a bigger car <snip> > Sales to the public are scheduled to begin in Australia in July 2010 under > leasing agreement at a price of AU$1,740 a month for 36 months, for a > cumulative total of AU$62,640 after which the car has to be returned to the > dealer.[6][16] The initial shipment will include only 40 units,[15] but <snip> > The Electron is sold with a three year warranty, and BEV offers a buyback > plan for the Electron. Owners can sell their car back to the company after > one year for $24,000, up to three years for $18,000. So after 3 years, the iMiev costs $62640, while the blade costs $30,000. That's a huge cost difference, and once again shows the waste that is endemic within Labor governments. Corse, for $30,000 you could buy 2 small petrol cars, and have some resale value after 3 years. That's a bloody lot of mileage that would need to be done for the electric car to be economically viable. > > -- What is the difference between a duck?
From: AB on 25 Jul 2010 21:22
If the Blade has a Compliance Plate Approval (ie it has a compliance plate fitted to it) it must comply with all the ADRs. "Marts" <marts(a)ymail.com> wrote in message news:lq6n46hl0ovs6mff0sv269rgohjqp6ljce(a)astraweb.com... > http://www.theage.com.au/national/electric-car-maker-angry-over-import-deal-20100724-10pr2.html > > The government has shunned a local electric car manufacturer and has > ordered > vehicles from Mitsubishi. > > The local manufacturer says that its vehicle is bigger, more efficient and > a lot > cheaper. > > The government said that it doesn't meet two ADRs. The guy is specific > about the > 2 ADR comment but "cannot" say which 2 they are. > > Bullshit. If he knows that there are two then he'll know which two. And > the mass > produced criteria is a load of bullshit, too. > > It's funny (well, not really). the car could get a leg up and into mass > production if the government leased its products. And the irony is that > the > government has subsidised the vehicle's development and manufacture. > > What is wrong with our governments and more importantly, these obsequeous > pubic > servants who pretty well run the governments when they deliberately go out > of > their way to ignore local manufacturers? Another case in example was the > outsourcing of defence materiel to China. > > They go on about local jobs and so on when out electioneering, but when it > comes > down to actually doing something, it's the reverse. > |