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From: Peter Hill on 13 Aug 2010 14:03 On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:59:48 +0100, "Knight of the Road" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote: > >"T_Raymond" <tonyraymond79(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >news:1fa673c9-19c3-44df-88fd-9924e4a0ab6a(a)x25g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... >> What's so hard with the maintenance of these vehicles? >> >> I'm starting to get sick and tired of finding the reason I've been >> stuck in traffic for an hour is due to a broken down lorry. It's all I >> every hear on the traffic report."Delays due to a broken down lorry". >> >> >> T Raymond > >Maintenance of HGV's is legally controlled, an HGV has to have an >alternating service/inspection every six weeks or 10,000km, whichever comes >first and HGVs are at least as reliable as cars and probably more so. Any >problems caused when an HGV breaks down will be caused by the fact that it >can not be pushed out of the way, as a car could be, and anybody of average >intelligence or above would realise that without having to have it explained >to them. > >Hope I have managed to explain this to you in a way that you can understand. > >Vince Q: So why do so many FAIL the MOT test? http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/2008%20-%202009%20Effectiveness%20Report.pdf Table A1.1, 32.4% fail initial test. 20% of trailers fail initial test. Operators with single vehicle are the worst with 40.3% failing the initial test followed by fleets under 5 vehicles at 34.2%. Brakes hold positions 2 thru to 5 in the top ten reasons list. A: Cos they don't give a monkeys until it fails the test. Q: Why are BRAKES at 9% for HGV and 20% for trailers both TOP of the Top ten prohibition defects in table 1.30? A: Cos they don't give a monkeys until they are faced with it being taken off the road or has to be tested. Motorcycles Class 1 and 2 have lowest initial test fail rate of 19.3% (but rate is increasing so they should take more care) Class 3 and 4, Cars and light vans are a bit worse than HGV at 36.6% but considering the inept ownership, lack of legally controlled alternating service/inspection etc it's very much better than the achievements of single vehicle HGV operators, comparable to small fleet and HGV overall. Class 5 PSV 32.9% Class 7 3-3.5 tonne LGV are utterly pants at 45.6% initial fail. There have been suggestion that MOT should be every 2 years but looks like LGV need testing twice a year. You can bet that the single operator light van that comes in the car class is just as bad. AND most telling of all "Vehicles that are not covered by statutory testing (including mobile cranes, diggers and non-HGV trailers) had a prohibition rate of 72.5%." So next time you see a JCB lurching along at 30 mph on the D-C or a farm tractor with a trailer full of spuds/turnips/grain doing 20mph, just think there's a 3 in 4 chance it has no brakes, knackered steering arms and no brake lights. Instead of prohibition, 1 in 10 found with defects needs taking out and shooting, it would encourage the others to shape up. -- Peter Hill Spamtrap reply domain as per NNTP-Posting-Host in header Can of worms - what every fisherman wants. Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!
From: Knight of the Road on 13 Aug 2010 14:16 "Peter Hill" <peter.usenet1(a)nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote > Q: So why do so many FAIL the MOT test? > http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/2008%20-%202009%20Effectiveness%20Report.pdf > Table A1.1, 32.4% fail initial test. 20% of trailers fail initial > test. Operators with single vehicle are the worst with 40.3% failing > the initial test followed by fleets under 5 vehicles at 34.2%. Brakes > hold positions 2 thru to 5 in the top ten reasons list. A motorcycle has two brakes, one on each axle. A car, mine for example, has four brakes, two on each axle. An articulated lorry has twelve brakes, two on each axle, and a far more complex (and fail-safe) system than a motorcycle or car. If you are suggesting that the reason a vehicle with twelve brakes is more likely to fail an MOT test than a vehicle with two brakes is because it is less well maintained, then you are so simple-minded that I don't see the point in debating with you. Vince
From: Conor on 13 Aug 2010 14:53 On 13/08/2010 19:03, Peter Hill wrote: > Q: So why do so many FAIL the MOT test? > http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/2008%20-%202009%20Effectiveness%20Report.pdf > Table A1.1, 32.4% fail initial test. 20% of trailers fail initial > test. Operators with single vehicle are the worst with 40.3% failing > the initial test followed by fleets under 5 vehicles at 34.2%. Brakes > hold positions 2 thru to 5 in the top ten reasons list. > Because it is far far stricter. > A: Cos they don't give a monkeys until it fails the test. > Err, no. It would have had 8 safety checks inbetween MOTs. > Q: Why are BRAKES at 9% for HGV and 20% for trailers both TOP of the > Top ten prohibition defects in table 1.30? > > A: Cos they don't give a monkeys until they are faced with it being > taken off the road or has to be tested. > Wrong. A lot of those are for air leaks. And before you bleat on about it, the truck has a compressor so its not like a car pissing out brake fluid. > Class 7 3-3.5 tonne LGV are utterly pants at 45.6% initial fail. That's because a lot of them are horse boxes and white van man who isn't subject to the same requrements for safety checks. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk
From: Harry Bloomfield on 13 Aug 2010 15:15 It happens that Conor formulated : > Compare that to a car which has a set amount of brake fluid and once thats > gone, there's no brakes. However the modern dual circuit system means that either both circuits have to fail at the same instant, or there has to be a failure of the pedal/ pedal linkage for all braking to be lost. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
From: Conor on 13 Aug 2010 17:11
On 13/08/2010 20:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote: > It happens that Conor formulated : >> Compare that to a car which has a set amount of brake fluid and once >> thats gone, there's no brakes. > > However the modern dual circuit system means that either both circuits > have to fail at the same instant, or there has to be a failure of the > pedal/ pedal linkage for all braking to be lost. > Remind me how well you can brake with basically one front corner whilst maintaining control of the vehicle. Sure makes steering real interesting. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk |