From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On 4 Dec 2009 12:51:22 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>Try rule 221.

Large vehicles. These may need extra road space to turn or to deal
with a hazard that you are not able to see. If you are following a
large vehicle, such as a bus or articulated lorry, be aware that the
driver may not be able to see you in the mirrors. Be prepared to stop
and wait if it needs room or time to turn.

>> She effectively caused the accident by silly positioning, but does the
>> law say anything about giving trucks space on roundabouts?
>
>Try the last clause of rule 187

long vehicles (including those towing trailers). These might have to
take a different course or straddle lanes either approaching or on the
roundabout because of their length. Watch out for their signals.

I think that's her banged to rights!
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: JNugent on
ChelseaTractorMan wrote:

[ ... ]

> She effectively caused the accident by silly positioning, but does the
> law say anything about giving trucks space on roundabouts? I'm pretty
> sure the HC mentions lorries need space when turning but couldnt find
> it addressed to drivers in a seperate lane? Of course the truck shoud
> have spotted it too, so a 50/50.

> Only last night I came to stop and waited in L2 at a roundabout
> because a truck was in L1 and I thought he might need the space, car
> behind hooted. <shrug>

Same here (about half a mile from my home). If a lorry is in the nearside
lane (d/c bypass) at the roundabout entrance, you daren't enter the
roundabout from the offside lane in case he tangentially enters your "lane"
on the roundabout. You just wait a couple of seconds - but such caution seems
to annoy some following drivers.
From: Keith on
On 4 Dec 2009 at 15:32, JNugent wrote:
> Same here (about half a mile from my home). If a lorry is in the
> nearside lane (d/c bypass) at the roundabout entrance, you daren't
> enter the roundabout from the offside lane in case he tangentially
> enters your "lane" on the roundabout. You just wait a couple of
> seconds - but such caution seems to annoy some following drivers.

Yes it does!

There is a fine line between caution and hesitancy, and in my experience
most drivers who hold back in situations like the one you describe are
overcautious and could easily negotiate the roundabout safely if they
had the confidence to give it some gas to get off and away before the
lorry crossed their path.

From: Keith on
On 4 Dec 2009 at 13:36, Ray Keattch wrote:
> One would hope drivers had the two brain cells required to work out
> lorries cut corners while turning.

No vehicle should cut a corner if there are other vehicles that would be
inconvenienced by it. (Obviously, on an empty road there is no problem
with someone choosing the shortest route across a corner or bend.)

From: Conor on
In article <slrnhhinhj.fhg.nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, Keith says...

> No vehicle should cut a corner if there are other vehicles that would be
> inconvenienced by it. (Obviously, on an empty road there is no problem
> with someone choosing the shortest route across a corner or bend.)

So what is a 53ft vehicle supposed to do then? It was in front and is
turning left and needs to take a swiing out to the right to get round
the corner.

--
Conor
www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk

I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
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