From: Ret. on
Bod wrote:
> I personally think the limit that we have now is strict enough.
> Any lower and a lot of restaurants/pubs etc will all be closing en
> masse, this due to diners being terrified at having even just one
> glass of wine
> with a meal.
>
> Most folk I know (including me) will only risk having one pint or 1
> glass of wine, as it stands now.
>
> Opinions?
>
>
> http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100317/tuk-lower-drink-drive-limit-supported-6323e80.html

Yes - I agree with you Bod. The present law has, on the whole, been a
resounding success in deterring the vast majority of drivers from drinking
to excess and driving. It does, however, as you point out, permit drivers
to still have a social drink, or a drink with a meal, without having to
worry about blowing positive.

I, like you, may have a single glass of wine, or a pint, when I know I will
be driving. Such a small amount will (for most people anyway) have no effect
at all upon their ability to drive. Changing the law will not deter those
who already ignore the existing law - but it will undoubtedly lead to a lot
of people deciding not to drink at all when they are about to drive - and I
cannot really see the advantage or the point of that.

Kev

From: Mr Pounder on

"Bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:80bmdcFoe0U1(a)mid.individual.net...
> On 17/03/2010 09:38, ChelseaTractorMan wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:22:09 +0000, Bod<bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I personally think the limit that we have now is strict enough.
>>
>> lower limits just catch people the morning after, not drunks.
>> What you need is good enforcement of sensible limits.
> >
> >
>
> Agreed.
>
> Bod

Hic!

Mr Pounder


From: Silk on
On 17/03/2010 09:22, Bod wrote:
> I personally think the limit that we have now is strict enough.
> Any lower and a lot of restaurants/pubs etc will all be closing en
> masse, this due to diners being terrified at having even just one glass
> of wine
> with a meal.
>
> Most folk I know (including me) will only risk having one pint or 1
> glass of wine, as it stands now.
>
> Opinions?

Well, I never drink at all when I'm likely to be driving as I can't
afford to take any risks due to needing my licence for my job and
normally I'd say zero would be a better limit as there would be no
confusion as to what you can drink and stay under the limit - if you
intend to drink, leave the car at home, simple - but, as others have
said, you have to have some kind of limit to allow for the morning after
and for some people who are probably ok having a small drink with a meal.
From: Silk on
On 17/03/2010 10:52, Mr Benn wrote:
> "ChelseaTractorMan"<mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:kn81q5h7tk3rh0ifitt5uc4kvlfl0t3dfp(a)4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:22:09 +0000, Bod<bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I personally think the limit that we have now is strict enough.
>>
>> lower limits just catch people the morning after, not drunks.
>> What you need is good enforcement of sensible limits.
>
> The morning after is the time when alcohol concentration in the blood is
> falling. Apparently you are less impaired when this is happening.

I'm very skeptical about the morning after thing. I doubt very much that
anyone is seriously impaired as long as they've had a decent night's
sleep, although I can't see how anyone can be at their best with a hangover.
From: Bod on
On 18/03/2010 16:49, Silk wrote:
> On 17/03/2010 09:22, Bod wrote:
>> I personally think the limit that we have now is strict enough.
>> Any lower and a lot of restaurants/pubs etc will all be closing en
>> masse, this due to diners being terrified at having even just one glass
>> of wine
>> with a meal.
>>
>> Most folk I know (including me) will only risk having one pint or 1
>> glass of wine, as it stands now.
>>
>> Opinions?
>
> Well, I never drink at all when I'm likely to be driving as I can't
> afford to take any risks due to needing my licence for my job and
> normally I'd say zero would be a better limit as there would be no
> confusion as to what you can drink and stay under the limit - if you
> intend to drink, leave the car at home, simple - but, as others have
> said, you have to have some kind of limit to allow for the morning after
> and for some people who are probably ok having a small drink with a meal.
>
>
Yes, but if the limit is reduced, then it will put any diner who has
just one glass of wine with a meal, liable to be over the limit, which
is silly and unfair.
Folk will be put off going out for a meal and consequently we will see
a spate of restaurants going out of business.
Also, if someone has had a reasonably good drink the night before
(say, 4-5 pints), they stand every chance of failing the breath test on
their way to work the next morning.

Bod