M6 motorway speeds?
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From: Silk on 25 Jun 2010 14:13 On 25/06/2010 15:49, greensha wrote: > I grew up in the UK but moved to the US in 1986. I used to return > fairly frequently in the 80's and early 90's, but I haven't been back in > quite a while. The last time I drove on the motorway system, the > average speed was between 80-85mph. Now with all the speed cameras I've > been hearing about, is this still the case? How much tolerance are you > allowed? Do they start ticketing at 1pm over? I'll be coming over for > a week in August and have quite a bit of driving planned, mostly in the > Northwest. I don't really want to get any tickets, but I don't want to > the slowest driver on the road either. > > Thanks! There's no real difference when it comes to enforcement - a bit less if anything due to fewer Police patrols. There does seem to be a trend towards slower speeds these days - you don't see so many people tanking it along at 80-90 like you used to. Presumably this is to save fuel.
From: Brimstone on 25 Jun 2010 14:50 "Halmyre" <no.spam(a)this.address> wrote in message news:MPG.268efffee0c37c3198a3a0(a)news.eternal-september.org... > In article <HfudnQwT_vVCdrnRnZ2dnUVZ8iCdnZ2d(a)bt.com>, > brimstone(a)hotmail.com says... >> >> "greensha" <greensha.4d4hux(a)no-mx.forums.travel.com> wrote in message >> news:greensha.4d4hux(a)no-mx.forums.travel.com... >> > I grew up in the UK but moved to the US in 1986. I used to return >> > fairly frequently in the 80's and early 90's, but I haven't been back >> > in >> > quite a while. The last time I drove on the motorway system, the >> > average speed was between 80-85mph. Now with all the speed cameras >> > I've >> > been hearing about, is this still the case? How much tolerance are you >> > allowed? Do they start ticketing at 1pm over? I'll be coming over for >> > a week in August and have quite a bit of driving planned, mostly in the >> > Northwest. I don't really want to get any tickets, but I don't want to >> > the slowest driver on the road either. >> > >> In general, there are no speed cameras on the motorways. They do put up >> average speed cameras through road works though. >> > > I have seen camera vans on the flyovers above the M876 in central > Scotland. > a) The OP made no mention of Scotland, unless you're suggesting that the north-west of Scotland has acquired motorways in the last couple of months. b) I said, very carefully, "in general". By mentioning only some on the M876 you have conformed my point.
From: Halmyre on 25 Jun 2010 16:18 In article <7t-dnRdOKOHoZ7nRnZ2dnUVZ8sydnZ2d(a)bt.com>, brimstone(a)hotmail.com says... > > "Halmyre" <no.spam(a)this.address> wrote in message > news:MPG.268efffee0c37c3198a3a0(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > In article <HfudnQwT_vVCdrnRnZ2dnUVZ8iCdnZ2d(a)bt.com>, > > brimstone(a)hotmail.com says... > >> > >> "greensha" <greensha.4d4hux(a)no-mx.forums.travel.com> wrote in message > >> news:greensha.4d4hux(a)no-mx.forums.travel.com... > >> > I grew up in the UK but moved to the US in 1986. I used to return > >> > fairly frequently in the 80's and early 90's, but I haven't been back > >> > in > >> > quite a while. The last time I drove on the motorway system, the > >> > average speed was between 80-85mph. Now with all the speed cameras > >> > I've > >> > been hearing about, is this still the case? How much tolerance are you > >> > allowed? Do they start ticketing at 1pm over? I'll be coming over for > >> > a week in August and have quite a bit of driving planned, mostly in the > >> > Northwest. I don't really want to get any tickets, but I don't want to > >> > the slowest driver on the road either. > >> > > >> In general, there are no speed cameras on the motorways. They do put up > >> average speed cameras through road works though. > >> > > > > I have seen camera vans on the flyovers above the M876 in central > > Scotland. > > > a) The OP made no mention of Scotland, unless you're suggesting that the > north-west of Scotland has acquired motorways in the last couple of months. > b) I said, very carefully, "in general". By mentioning only some on the M876 > you have conformed my point. > > > Don't be such a bloody pedant. He mentions the UK (which Scotland is a part of). Perhaps he means the northwest of Scotland? He mentions motorways, not "motorways except in Scotland". -- Halmyre This is the most powerful sigfile in the world and will probably blow your head clean off.
From: Derek Geldard on 25 Jun 2010 19:17 On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:49:08 -0500, greensha <greensha.4d4hux(a)no-mx.forums.travel.com> wrote: > I'll be coming over for >a week in August and have quite a bit of driving planned, mostly in the >Northwest. I don't really want to get any tickets, but I don't want to >the slowest driver on the road either. > There is a set of semi official guidelines for all the various speed limits set by the association of chiefs of police officers (ACPO) to cover errors in speedometers and momentary thoughtless violations. There's a table of them here : http://www.speedlimit.org.uk/faq.html#ACPO (Suggest you check out this site + other speed camera sites) For example In a 70 limit you would not as a rule get ticketed for driving up to an indicated 79 mph including all the various errors. This has only the legal status of a concession, but If you aim to drive at an indicated 72 you won't attract the attention of the police (you don't have to brake violently if you come across a police car), won't get tickets, and won't appear conspicuously slow. Be aware that in so called "Built up areas" the default limit is 30 mph, alternatively the limit could be higher or lower. There will never be any repeater signs showing 30 mph, so watch out and keep a good tally. BTW A "Built up area" is defined as "Where there are three or more lamps throwing light on the carriageway and placed not more than 183 metres apart." So the criteria is presence or absence of street lamps and not buildings. Have fun with your tape measure. Derek
From: Derek Geldard on 25 Jun 2010 19:22
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:50:26 +0100, "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >"Halmyre" <no.spam(a)this.address> wrote in message >news:MPG.268efffee0c37c3198a3a0(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> In article <HfudnQwT_vVCdrnRnZ2dnUVZ8iCdnZ2d(a)bt.com>, >> brimstone(a)hotmail.com says... >>> >>> "greensha" <greensha.4d4hux(a)no-mx.forums.travel.com> wrote in message >>> news:greensha.4d4hux(a)no-mx.forums.travel.com... >>> > I grew up in the UK but moved to the US in 1986. I used to return >>> > fairly frequently in the 80's and early 90's, but I haven't been back >>> > in >>> > quite a while. The last time I drove on the motorway system, the >>> > average speed was between 80-85mph. Now with all the speed cameras >>> > I've >>> > been hearing about, is this still the case? How much tolerance are you >>> > allowed? Do they start ticketing at 1pm over? I'll be coming over for >>> > a week in August and have quite a bit of driving planned, mostly in the >>> > Northwest. I don't really want to get any tickets, but I don't want to >>> > the slowest driver on the road either. >>> > >>> In general, there are no speed cameras on the motorways. They do put up >>> average speed cameras through road works though. >>> >> >> I have seen camera vans on the flyovers above the M876 in central >> Scotland. >> >a) The OP made no mention of Scotland, unless you're suggesting that the >north-west of Scotland North-West ??? Stenhousemuir (Nil) is only about one quarter the distance from the border at Coldstream that John O' Groats is. >has acquired motorways in the last couple of months. Well England has. The new 8 lane section of the M1 (Ca. 20 miles) through Derbyshire has camera warnings (M25 style) on most of the gantries. >b) I said, very carefully, "in general". By mentioning only some on the M876 >you have conformed my point. > That must be painful. Derek |