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From: Nick Finnigan on 29 Jun 2010 12:47 bod wrote: > > And what about the largest category of having accidents then; the > youngsters who have recently *passed* their tests. What about the oldsters who have recently *passed* their tests? > Apparently, they have about 1 in 4 of all accidents. > In general, older drivers have the best safety record of all. No, middling drivers do. > Insurance companies back these facts up. An extra 40 quid if my wife were 70, 80 quid at 75, wont quote at 80 An extra 40 quid at 35, 150 quid at 30, wont quote at 25 (compared with the lowest premium aged 40-60).
From: Brimstone on 29 Jun 2010 14:37 "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:88ub9pF8c5U1(a)mid.individual.net... > Brimstone wrote: >> >> "Mike P" <max.cat(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:0bb42ea0-1cb7-4881-adf0-f8398a6851f4(a)i28g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... >>> On 29 June, 12:36, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Mike P" <max....(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> >>>> news:9a1e18a0-fa15-4469-b406-50f73aeaca9f(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>> > On 29 June, 11:14, bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >> boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote: >>>> >> > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:57:51 +0100 >>>> >> > bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >> >> And what about the largest category of having accidents then; the >>>> >> >> youngsters who have recently *passed* their tests. >>>> >> >> Apparently, they have about 1 in 4 of all accidents. In >>>> general, >> >> older >>>> >> >> drivers have the best safety record of all. Insurance companies >>>> >> >> back >>>> >> >> these facts up. >>>> >>>> >> > I also happen to think that 17 is too young to be able to drive >>>> a 1 >> > ton >>>> >> > car on the roads. As for older drivers having the best safety >> >>>> > records - >>>> >> > the >>>> >> > probably also do the least miles. I reckon if you looked on the >>>> >> > accident >>>> >> > rate on a per mile basis (which insurance companies don't do) >>>> then >> > it >>>> >> > wouldn't >>>> >> > be quite so rosy. Also it doesn't take account of the accidents >>>> they >>>> >> > indirectly cause due to frustrated drivers behind taking risks. >>>> >>>> >> > B2003 >>>> >>>> >> Yes, but at what minimum age would you recommend to obtain a driving >>>> >> licence then? >>>> >>>> > I'd say 18 is an ok age, with a restriction on what you can drive for >>>> > 2 years - similar to the 33BHP limit with new motorbike riders. >>>> > Restrict young drivers to cars less than 70bhp for 2 years and give >>>> > them *big* incentives not to crash.. >>>> >>>> I prefer the notion that *everyone* (with a few obvious exceptions) has >>>> to >>>> learn to ride a pedal bicycle and then a motorcycle before being >>>> allowed to >>>> drive a car. >>> >>> That's what I did, and I wholeheartedly agree with you. >>> >> Strangely, the first driving test I passed was on a Chieftain tank. :-) >> >> > What mpg was it? or should that be gpm? > > A wild guess; 1 gallon per mile? > AIUI closer to 4 gallons to the mile.
From: Brimstone on 29 Jun 2010 14:37 "Clive George" <clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:R5WdnRsqcrymYbTRnZ2dnUVZ8oednZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk... > On 29/06/2010 12:36, Brimstone wrote: > >> I prefer the notion that *everyone* (with a few obvious exceptions) has >> to learn to ride a pedal bicycle and then a motorcycle before being >> allowed to drive a car. > > I might go a little further than that. There's a difference being able to > ride a bike/motorbike and having suffient experience with it. I suspect > most of the people who drive dangerously round two wheelers can ride a > bike. I wouldn't disagree.
From: bod on 29 Jun 2010 14:48 Brimstone wrote: > > "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:88ub9pF8c5U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> Brimstone wrote: >>> >>> "Mike P" <max.cat(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:0bb42ea0-1cb7-4881-adf0-f8398a6851f4(a)i28g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... >>> >>>> On 29 June, 12:36, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Mike P" <max....(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>> >>>>> news:9a1e18a0-fa15-4469-b406-50f73aeaca9f(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > On 29 June, 11:14, bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >> boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote: >>>>> >> > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:57:51 +0100 >>>>> >> > bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >> >> And what about the largest category of having accidents then; >>>>> the >>>>> >> >> youngsters who have recently *passed* their tests. >>>>> >> >> Apparently, they have about 1 in 4 of all accidents. In >>>>> general, >> >> older >>>>> >> >> drivers have the best safety record of all. Insurance >>>>> companies >> >> back >>>>> >> >> these facts up. >>>>> >>>>> >> > I also happen to think that 17 is too young to be able to drive >>>>> a 1 >> > ton >>>>> >> > car on the roads. As for older drivers having the best safety >> >>>>> > records - >>>>> >> > the >>>>> >> > probably also do the least miles. I reckon if you looked on the >>>>> >> > accident >>>>> >> > rate on a per mile basis (which insurance companies don't do) >>>>> then >> > it >>>>> >> > wouldn't >>>>> >> > be quite so rosy. Also it doesn't take account of the accidents >>>>> they >>>>> >> > indirectly cause due to frustrated drivers behind taking risks. >>>>> >>>>> >> > B2003 >>>>> >>>>> >> Yes, but at what minimum age would you recommend to obtain a >>>>> driving >>>>> >> licence then? >>>>> >>>>> > I'd say 18 is an ok age, with a restriction on what you can drive >>>>> for >>>>> > 2 years - similar to the 33BHP limit with new motorbike riders. >>>>> > Restrict young drivers to cars less than 70bhp for 2 years and give >>>>> > them *big* incentives not to crash.. >>>>> >>>>> I prefer the notion that *everyone* (with a few obvious exceptions) >>>>> has to >>>>> learn to ride a pedal bicycle and then a motorcycle before being >>>>> allowed to >>>>> drive a car. >>>> >>>> That's what I did, and I wholeheartedly agree with you. >>>> >>> Strangely, the first driving test I passed was on a Chieftain tank. :-) >>> >>> >> What mpg was it? or should that be gpm? >> >> A wild guess; 1 gallon per mile? >> > AIUI closer to 4 gallons to the mile. > > Streuth!! Nearly as bad as my Vectra :) Bod
From: Ret. on 29 Jun 2010 15:28
boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:16:53 +0100 > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>> In 20 years, I've hit a pigeon, a sheep, and recently a pheasant. >>> That all, in probably 400,000 miles. >>> >>> Mike P >>> >>> >>> >> Sorry! You still don't qualify for a 'road kill' badge, untill >> you've hit *5* different species. > > Do humans count? Or if not, what about cyclists? Well - you get a medal if you run over Doug... -- Kev |