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From: Steve Firth on 29 Jun 2010 15:21 ARWadsworth <adamwadsworth(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > I've done the M42 somewhere between 95 and 100mph through the variable speed > limit section. Usually at about 4.30am. If that was "95" on your speedo then you were probably doing closer to 85, on some cars/vans it could have been as low as 83. However the fact that the speed cameras are set at high limits does not mean that they are not there. Brimstone was making a blanket statement that was entirely fallacious. The M4 camera vans are rather notorious. And they don't permit a generous margin.
From: Brimstone on 29 Jun 2010 16:11 "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:88utevFn9qU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Brimstone wrote: >> >> "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:88ub9pF8c5U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> Brimstone wrote: >>>> >>>> "Mike P" <max.cat(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:0bb42ea0-1cb7-4881-adf0-f8398a6851f4(a)i28g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... >>>>> On 29 June, 12:36, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Mike P" <max....(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>>> >>>>>> news:9a1e18a0-fa15-4469-b406-50f73aeaca9f(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> > On 29 June, 11:14, bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >> boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote: >>>>>> >> > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:57:51 +0100 >>>>>> >> > bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >> >> And what about the largest category of having accidents then; >>>>>> the >>>>>> >> >> youngsters who have recently *passed* their tests. >>>>>> >> >> Apparently, they have about 1 in 4 of all accidents. In >>>>>> general, >> >> older >>>>>> >> >> drivers have the best safety record of all. Insurance >>>>>> companies >> >> back >>>>>> >> >> these facts up. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> > I also happen to think that 17 is too young to be able to drive >>>>>> a 1 >> > ton >>>>>> >> > car on the roads. As for older drivers having the best safety >> >>>>>> > records - >>>>>> >> > the >>>>>> >> > probably also do the least miles. I reckon if you looked on the >>>>>> >> > accident >>>>>> >> > rate on a per mile basis (which insurance companies don't do) >>>>>> then >> > it >>>>>> >> > wouldn't >>>>>> >> > be quite so rosy. Also it doesn't take account of the accidents >>>>>> they >>>>>> >> > indirectly cause due to frustrated drivers behind taking risks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> > B2003 >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Yes, but at what minimum age would you recommend to obtain a >>>>>> driving >>>>>> >> licence then? >>>>>> >>>>>> > I'd say 18 is an ok age, with a restriction on what you can drive >>>>>> for >>>>>> > 2 years - similar to the 33BHP limit with new motorbike riders. >>>>>> > Restrict young drivers to cars less than 70bhp for 2 years and give >>>>>> > them *big* incentives not to crash.. >>>>>> >>>>>> I prefer the notion that *everyone* (with a few obvious exceptions) >>>>>> has to >>>>>> learn to ride a pedal bicycle and then a motorcycle before being >>>>>> allowed to >>>>>> drive a car. >>>>> >>>>> That's what I did, and I wholeheartedly agree with you. >>>>> >>>> Strangely, the first driving test I passed was on a Chieftain tank. :-) >>>> >>>> >>> What mpg was it? or should that be gpm? >>> >>> A wild guess; 1 gallon per mile? >>> >> AIUI closer to 4 gallons to the mile. >> > Streuth!! Nearly as bad as my Vectra :) > If your Vectra doesn't have a 19 litre supercharged multi-fuel engine moving 56 tons, you might want to think about getting it serviced. :-)
From: bod on 29 Jun 2010 16:52 Brimstone wrote: > > "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:88utevFn9qU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> Brimstone wrote: >>> >>> "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:88ub9pF8c5U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Mike P" <max.cat(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>> news:0bb42ea0-1cb7-4881-adf0-f8398a6851f4(a)i28g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... >>>>> >>>>>> On 29 June, 12:36, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Mike P" <max....(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> news:9a1e18a0-fa15-4469-b406-50f73aeaca9f(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > On 29 June, 11:14, bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >> boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote: >>>>>>> >> > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:57:51 +0100 >>>>>>> >> > bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >> And what about the largest category of having accidents then; >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >> >> youngsters who have recently *passed* their tests. >>>>>>> >> >> Apparently, they have about 1 in 4 of all accidents. In >>>>>>> general, >> >> older >>>>>>> >> >> drivers have the best safety record of all. Insurance >>>>>>> companies >> >> back >>>>>>> >> >> these facts up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> > I also happen to think that 17 is too young to be able to drive >>>>>>> a 1 >> > ton >>>>>>> >> > car on the roads. As for older drivers having the best >>>>>>> safety >> >>>>>>> > records - >>>>>>> >> > the >>>>>>> >> > probably also do the least miles. I reckon if you looked on the >>>>>>> >> > accident >>>>>>> >> > rate on a per mile basis (which insurance companies don't do) >>>>>>> then >> > it >>>>>>> >> > wouldn't >>>>>>> >> > be quite so rosy. Also it doesn't take account of the accidents >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> >> > indirectly cause due to frustrated drivers behind taking risks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> > B2003 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> Yes, but at what minimum age would you recommend to obtain a >>>>>>> driving >>>>>>> >> licence then? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > I'd say 18 is an ok age, with a restriction on what you can drive >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> > 2 years - similar to the 33BHP limit with new motorbike riders. >>>>>>> > Restrict young drivers to cars less than 70bhp for 2 years and >>>>>>> give >>>>>>> > them *big* incentives not to crash.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I prefer the notion that *everyone* (with a few obvious >>>>>>> exceptions) has to >>>>>>> learn to ride a pedal bicycle and then a motorcycle before being >>>>>>> allowed to >>>>>>> drive a car. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's what I did, and I wholeheartedly agree with you. >>>>>> >>>>> Strangely, the first driving test I passed was on a Chieftain tank. >>>>> :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> What mpg was it? or should that be gpm? >>>> >>>> A wild guess; 1 gallon per mile? >>>> >>> AIUI closer to 4 gallons to the mile. >>> >> Streuth!! Nearly as bad as my Vectra :) >> > If your Vectra doesn't have a 19 litre supercharged multi-fuel engine > moving 56 tons, you might want to think about getting it serviced. :-) > > :) Bod
From: BrianW on 29 Jun 2010 17:57 On Jun 29, 7:37 pm, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > "bod" <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:88ub9pF8c5U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > > > Brimstone wrote: > > >> "Mike P" <max....(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > >>news:0bb42ea0-1cb7-4881-adf0-f8398a6851f4(a)i28g2000yqa.googlegroups.com.... > >>> On 29 June, 12:36, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>> "Mike P" <max....(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>>>news:9a1e18a0-fa15-4469-b406-50f73aeaca9f(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com.... > > >>>> > On 29 June, 11:14, bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> >> boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote: > >>>> >> > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:57:51 +0100 > >>>> >> > bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> >> >> And what about the largest category of having accidents then; the > >>>> >> >> youngsters who have recently *passed* their tests. > >>>> >> >> Apparently, they have about 1 in 4 of all accidents. In > >>>> general, >> >> older > >>>> >> >> drivers have the best safety record of all. Insurance companies > >>>> >> >> back > >>>> >> >> these facts up. > > >>>> >> > I also happen to think that 17 is too young to be able to drive > >>>> a 1 >> > ton > >>>> >> > car on the roads. As for older drivers having the best safety >> > >>>> > records - > >>>> >> > the > >>>> >> > probably also do the least miles. I reckon if you looked on the > >>>> >> > accident > >>>> >> > rate on a per mile basis (which insurance companies don't do) > >>>> then >> > it > >>>> >> > wouldn't > >>>> >> > be quite so rosy. Also it doesn't take account of the accidents > >>>> they > >>>> >> > indirectly cause due to frustrated drivers behind taking risks. > > >>>> >> > B2003 > > >>>> >> Yes, but at what minimum age would you recommend to obtain a driving > >>>> >> licence then? > > >>>> > I'd say 18 is an ok age, with a restriction on what you can drive for > >>>> > 2 years - similar to the 33BHP limit with new motorbike riders. > >>>> > Restrict young drivers to cars less than 70bhp for 2 years and give > >>>> > them *big* incentives not to crash.. > > >>>> I prefer the notion that *everyone* (with a few obvious exceptions) has > >>>> to > >>>> learn to ride a pedal bicycle and then a motorcycle before being > >>>> allowed to > >>>> drive a car. > > >>> That's what I did, and I wholeheartedly agree with you. > > >> Strangely, the first driving test I passed was on a Chieftain tank. :-) > > > What mpg was it? or should that be gpm? > > > A wild guess; 1 gallon per mile? > > AIUI closer to 4 gallons to the mile Blimey. Almost as bad as Doug "Environmental champion" Bollen's Land Rover.
From: Adrian on 30 Jun 2010 01:54
"Mr Pounder" <MrPounder(a)RationalThought.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > Are you really trying to tell me that you averaged 100 mph? Why do you find it so difficult to comprehend? |