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From: bod on 30 Jun 2010 06:28 Adrian wrote: > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > >>>>> So, for you, the problem lies in the commission of the offence - >>>>> rather than in the likelihood of being caught doing it. >>>>> >>>>> For Kev, it appears the opposite is true. He is quite happy to break >>>>> the limit, but is careful to only do so when the risk of being caught >>>>> is absolutely minimal. >>>>> >>>>> Unless, of course, it's somehow different because speeding is >>>>> victimless and sometimes speeds above the limit are perfectly safe >>>>> and appropriate? > >>>> I'm sure that Kev would consider the road conditions etc and adjust >>>> his speed accordingly, especially if doing 32mph was at all a risk, in >>>> just the same way as you would speed on a rural road, if the >>>> conditions were safe. > >>> You're still missing the point. >>> >>> Kevin is saying that speed limits are really, really important, and >>> that not obeying them makes you dangerously wanton scofflaw - then >>> freely admits to regularly breaking them himself. But only by enough >>> not to get caught. >>> >>> Because it's OK so long as you don't get caught. >>> >>> Likewise, it's OK to only nick a twix from the newsagent so long as >>> he's not looking. > >> You're comparison is innapropriate. One is blatant theft and the other >> is pushing the limits of the law. > > How is even 31 in a 30 "pushing the limits"? The limit is clear. It is > 30. 31 is more than 30. 31 is breaking the law. Simple as. > > If we look SOLELY at the laws against exceeding the speed limit, 150mph > in a 30 is EXACTLY the same cut'n'dried, black'n'white offence as 31mph. > > Your stance now is directly opposite to the one you took a moment ago. > > Remember that? > >>>>>>> Is it ok to steal from an empty shop because there's no one there >>>>>>> to catch you? > >>>>>> Of course not. > > I haven't changed my stance. Kev pushes the limit at which he knows he won't be nicked. Over the legal statuatory limit but within the limit of being prosecuted. Bod
From: Mike P on 30 Jun 2010 06:30 On 30 June, 11:25, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Mike P <max....(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they > were saying: > > >> > I was however deeply saddened to learn the Dutch are not all dope- > >> > smoking pornographers.. > >> They're not even all 7ft tall. > > I know. I work with some. They're about as opposite from the stereotype > > view as you can get. It's hard work. > > Pleashe tell me they all shound like they're shtoned, though? Oh, absolutely. It'd just make my life easier if they actually were.. Mike P
From: bod on 30 Jun 2010 06:33 Adrian wrote: > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > >>> Kev wishes we were all just like him. Remember how quickly he turned on >>> you when football started to be discussed? > >> Yes I remember ....and that is narrow minded. > > Purely that particular one, and purely because it was aimed at something > you enjoy doing? Or do you accept that many of his views are generally > narrow-minded? > > Yes, on some issues. Bod
From: Adrian on 30 Jun 2010 06:35 bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>> You're comparison is innapropriate. One is blatant theft and the >>> other is pushing the limits of the law. >> How is even 31 in a 30 "pushing the limits"? The limit is clear. It is >> 30. 31 is more than 30. 31 is breaking the law. Simple as. >> >> If we look SOLELY at the laws against exceeding the speed limit, 150mph >> in a 30 is EXACTLY the same cut'n'dried, black'n'white offence as >> 31mph. >> >> Your stance now is directly opposite to the one you took a moment ago. >> >> Remember that? >>>>>>>> Is it ok to steal from an empty shop because there's no one there >>>>>>>> to catch you? >>>>>>> Of course not. > I haven't changed my stance. Yes, you have. > Kev pushes the limit at which he knows he won't be nicked. Over the > legal statuatory limit but within the limit of being prosecuted. Correct. But that still misses the point. Kev promptly then attacks and condemns others for their irresponsibility and danger - not in risking being caught, but in BREAKING THE LIMIT IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT is where the hypocrisy lies. He is happy to steal that twix, but only if he's fairly sure that they won't prosecute for only 50p.
From: bod on 30 Jun 2010 06:35
Adrian wrote: > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > >>>> You're comparison is innapropriate. One is blatant theft and the >>>> other is pushing the limits of the law. > >>> No, they're both illegal. End of story. > >> Only if applying the *strict* letter of the law....then yes. > > What other kind is there? > > Common sense, unless you yourself think that the letter of the law MUST be obeyed, no matter what. Bod |